http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/961_mandeville.html
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=159676.0
http://waronyou.com/topics/webster-tarpley-hitlers-critque-of-fdr-policies-the-same-as-modern-day-libertarians/
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=119832.5;wap2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTGXLx6ztvw&feature=related
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Articles/Owl_of_Minerva.htm
http://east_west_dialogue.tripod.com/american_system/id10.html
http://us1.harunyahya.com/Detail/T/EDCRFV/productId/8214/THE_EVOLUTIONARY_MYTH,_FROM_ANCIENT_GREECE_TO_MODERN_EUROPE
(I don't agree with this site's promoting of Islam, but it has interesting information on Evolution)
http://www.silver-investor.com/charlessavoie/cs_jan05.htm
http://christianinfobomb.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=7
http://truthseeker2473.blogspot.com/2010/04/looting-main-street-how-nations-biggest.html
SUGARDON209 yes .. Tarpley is for the auto bailout . That is for the people not the bankers .. Is it easier for you to get a loan now ? What did it help ?" Inflate the currency & through more money at the greedy bankers " thats whats happening now. 2 11 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-AKFbgQ_8
Thursday, April 08, 2010
Wednesday, April 07, 2010
Tuesday, April 06, 2010
Illuminati sources
Sunday, April 04, 2010
Thursday, April 01, 2010
Economic Populism Information
From http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=105934.80
One could easily posit all sorts of ridiculous fearmongering scenarios concerning government-controlled police and government-controlled armies as a way of scaring the gullible into embracing the stateless utopian fantasy world of the Austrian School, wherein--according to those who promote this delusional, quasi-religious fairy-tale--a mystical, God-like entity euphemistically called the "free market" magically keeps privately controlled police and privately controlled armies from terrorizing, oppressing and enslaving people.Fortunately, most of the people in this forum aren't quite so gullible.
They know that keeping the police and military in public rather than private hands is, if nothing else, the far lesser of two evils; and that the reason certain public institutions have become so corrupt and oppressive in recent years is that they've been, in effect, "privatized" to one extent or another (case in point: the "Federal" Reserve), and that the solution to this is not to mindlessly throw the baby out with the bathwater but to reclaim from these private interests our rightful control over our own government.I don't know about anyone else, but I, for one, say "no" to the privatized tyranny that anarcho-capitalists would have us all living under if they had their way, and "yes" to the liberty and freedom that can only be experienced in a truly Democratic Constitutional Republic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE
-geolibertarian
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Way to side-step my counterargument to this in my last post.
Wrong. My answer is to give people the power by conferring to them their rightful control over their own government. Yours (apparently) is to throw the baby out with the bathwater by abolishing government altogether (or reducing it to the point of irrelevancy), and thereby give rise to the tyranny of "might makes right," where only those with the most "might" are "free."
Yes, but why is it forming around us? As Alex's listeners know, the answer is that the police and military have fallen under the control of private interests!
Thanks for making my case for me.
I'm convinced that it's you who are "burying your head on this," not me.
Guess we'll just have to let readers decide for themselves, won't we?
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-geolibertarian
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The difference between (a) the lower and middle classes uniting against the plutocrats and (b) the lower and middle classes fighting each other while the divide-and-rule plutocrats laugh in their faces (or rather at the backs of their heads, if you know what I mean.)
-geolibertarian
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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=105934.120
Actually, their influence over the Government is straight from the Private Banking Cartels, and they are currently allowing our infrastructure to collapse.
Liberty works just fine, but if your definition of Liberty would result in a devestating collapse of the economy if fully (or partially in many respects) implimented, that is not an accurate description of Liberty in my opinion.
Empire is a privatized entity, going back to the East India Company and Lord Shellburne ( A privatized navy ) during the Chinese opium wars. It will always be easier for them to gain control of the money if it is issued by a private entity as opposed to appropriated by Congress and issued by the Treasury. The TARP Bill got a massive protest for 750 Billion dollar - the FED (A Private Bank) has secretly loaned somewhere around 9 Trillion and guarenteed about 4 more in currency that have no value because it was merely printed to pay off bills, nothing was produced with it.
If there was no FED, this secret banking cabal would not exist, and the FED is a private entity.
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RonPaulHatesBlacks Nope. Lincoln abandoned colonization during his lifetime. Sorry, slappy.And the war was about slavery. That what you said when you started it, in the Cornerstone Speech and Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession you still haven't read.The newsletters never went to court. They were written by Paul and Lew Rockwell. Paul made $940,000 a year from them, defended them for decades, and even today refuses to repudiate Rockwell. You lose, slappy. 22 hours ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks It would take more guts for him to defend Lincoln, because it would offend the base of white supremacists who have supported him during his entire career --- David Duke, Don Black, Will Williams, Lew Rockwell, Randy Grey. H__, it would offend a lot of his supporters on Youtube --- they openly defend slavery, celebrate the South, and call for secession and the murder of American soldiers today. 2 days ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks Of course the war was about slavery. The South said so when they started it, in their Cornerstone Speech and the Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession. They said "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world." 1 day ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks Apartheid didn't end "decades" ago. It ended in 1994. Most Americans don't support even one more second of slavery or segregation, because We believe all men are created equal. Others commenting on this video disagree. They believe slavery and segregation NEVER should have ended unless and until the racist South just spontaneously and voluntarily decided to give them up, if ever. They actually support MORE years of slavery and segregation. That's some David Duke, KKK s__ right there. 3 days ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23UXUTUrQIw
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) wrong, svinka.equal Jewish Imperial Capitalists to Jew Communists. it wasnt "Jewish" system. Communist architects were non-Jew English/French/German/Irish/Catholic/Slavic/Spanish/Russian. Communism was Secular Humanism embraced early by vastly more non-Jews than Jews.Jews were very persecuted in USSR. not systematic like Nazis. but they were attacked, for religious identity & Capitalist wealth, not ethnic traits.Nazis attacked Jews for any reason. Bolsheviks only attacked Jews for Judaism. 2 months ago
Whatchagonado Pogroms killed 150k Jews during Lenin's reign alone. Preferential treatment?Stalin believed he could maintain alliance with Hitler for the very reason that they were both interested in exterminating Jews. He didn't realize that Hitler had the same delusion that you do, namely that Communism is not separate from Judaism. I guess that makes all three of you fools.Hatred of Jews and ennoblement of some imagined "white ancestry" is merely a variation on an old "divide and conquer" strategy. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Stalin's USSR was Atheist. all religion outlawed. not just Christian. Jude, Buddhism, etc. all synagogue seized for state use. synagogues destroyed in Kiev, Minsk, Odessa, Rostov, Khurgav, Novgorod, Krasnoy & other.Stalin's anti-Jew purges. he saw all Jews as potential Capitalist spy.Nazis attacked Jews for lotsa reasons. Nazis saw Jew as genetic inferior/oppressive financial parasite.Judea didnt declare war on Germany till explusions/atrocities exposed 1939-40. Nazi revisionists say 1933. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Lenin's USSR & all USSR Atheist. no favoritism toward Jews. all religion outlawed equally except during Lenin's USSR & early Stalin's USSR when they supported & allied with Russian Orthodox Christian church against Fascists & Nazis. even Jewish Communists like Lenin & Trotsky favored Russian Orthodox church occasionally yes.want entire list of USSR cities & republics where synagogues were violently seized or destroyed & Jews killed either while still in temple praying or after running away? 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Birobidzhan Oblast was partly press program to alleviate fear of anti-Semitism in USSR by Jews. they really did try but not high effort. it failed. it's true anti-Semitism in USSR wasnt as extreme as Nazi Germany. but very serious, religiously & financially targeted horror. they thought Jews had harder time resisting wealth/luxury & weak against Capitalist persuasion. it wasnt systematic or as focused as Nazi. but no Jew favoritism nor extreme hateful targeted anti-Semitism like Nazi Germany. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Karl Marx (1883), Nikolai Lenin & Trotsky were Jews but disagreed on policies.Lenin wanted Democratic Socialism; parliament govt; state/local autonomy. No Dictatorship or Corporatism. Democracy/regulated Capitalism.he was poisoned by non-Jew rivals who wanted Rightwing Totalitarian Dictatorship.Trotsky wanted "Social Democracy" yet Federal Govt Corporatism/market Capitalism. no Dictator. no local autonomy.Trotsky murdered by Stalinists who wanted oppressive State Capitalist Dictatorship. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq wrong, svinka.equal Jewish Imperial Capitalists to Jew Communists. it wasnt "Jewish" system. Communist architects were non-Jew English/French/German/Irish/Catholic/Slavic/Spanish/Russian. Communism was Secular Humanism embraced early by vastly more non-Jews than Jews.Jews were very persecuted in USSR. not systematic like Nazis. but they were attacked, for religious identity & Capitalist wealth, not ethnic traits.Nazis attacked Jews for any reason. Bolsheviks only attacked Jews for Judaism. 2 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWX7FH1YiOs
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VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) well too bad. LOL. wah! wah!Yes I do agree! LOL. i agree because i'm a Keynesian Capitalist, yah douche Nozzle!i am only accusing American fake "Libertarians", followers of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Von Mises and Rothbard, who are only for the wealthy, the top wealthiest 1% and big business. i wasnt accusing regular real libertarians like Noam Chomsky. ; D 1 month ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) you're so ignorant of history, it's staggering. LOLFDR didnt confiscate the gold. the Treasury Dept + Justice Dept did with unaminous congressional + legal authority to stabilize the market.they paid generous above market value to all gold standard holders and investors for all gold taken out of circulation, out of Wall St market standards.nobody complained except Pro-Gold Standard Far Right Conservative Laissez-Faire Anarcho-Capitalist Social Darwinist "Free" Market (Fascist) purists. 4 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) yes. the Nazis believed the identical way that you do. they were the strongest promoters of economic Social Darwinism in world history next to the monarchies of primitive Aristocratic imperialist Europe, Russia and Asia. you belong in the 17th century. 5 months ago
http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/FDR-s-Second-Amendment-Ri-by-Mary-MacElveen-100418-270.html
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Do you have a brain? I'm guessing no. Are you not at all familiar with the government aid to farmers, major corporations, and other big business? As far as the social programs, think back to when they are enacted. DURING ECONOMIC DOWN TURNS AND DEPRESSIONS, and you know why, because the public is the one that takes the biggest hit. So people make the choice to vote for social programs, instead of starving. WHITE PEOPLE. And you forgot to address my question as to which branch of the military you have served in.
-SirDaily
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Of course he's including banks and S&L's. S &L's took a dive in the 90's and many banks are taking one now. That's a "lifetime," for sure.
-Stag R Lee
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Heather, you are either informed or hopelessly stupid. Your comment goes back to another thread; one in which I personally traced the mortgage lending to poor communites back to Jimmy Carter when he helped pass the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. Here it is again....http://www.commerce.wa.gov/DesktopModules/CTE... ...In this particular thread--repeat, this thread--I demonstrated how, through the repeal of the Glass Steagal Act, Ronald Reagan and a Republican Congress triggered the current economic meltdown....Again, my question to Heather and to all trolls: Why do you hate America so much? Why do you twist historical data to fit arguments of hatred and derision?
-Stag R Lee
One could easily posit all sorts of ridiculous fearmongering scenarios concerning government-controlled police and government-controlled armies as a way of scaring the gullible into embracing the stateless utopian fantasy world of the Austrian School, wherein--according to those who promote this delusional, quasi-religious fairy-tale--a mystical, God-like entity euphemistically called the "free market" magically keeps privately controlled police and privately controlled armies from terrorizing, oppressing and enslaving people.Fortunately, most of the people in this forum aren't quite so gullible.
They know that keeping the police and military in public rather than private hands is, if nothing else, the far lesser of two evils; and that the reason certain public institutions have become so corrupt and oppressive in recent years is that they've been, in effect, "privatized" to one extent or another (case in point: the "Federal" Reserve), and that the solution to this is not to mindlessly throw the baby out with the bathwater but to reclaim from these private interests our rightful control over our own government.I don't know about anyone else, but I, for one, say "no" to the privatized tyranny that anarcho-capitalists would have us all living under if they had their way, and "yes" to the liberty and freedom that can only be experienced in a truly Democratic Constitutional Republic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE
-geolibertarian
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Quote from: lostdog2323 on May 24, 2009, 09:56:41 AM
So you think its best
for people to trust in the govt to protect them and to control everything in a
benevolent fashion. Talk about utopian fantasy land.
Way to side-step my counterargument to this in my last post.
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My answer is give people the power, yours is give govt the power
Wrong. My answer is to give people the power by conferring to them their rightful control over their own government. Yours (apparently) is to throw the baby out with the bathwater by abolishing government altogether (or reducing it to the point of irrelevancy), and thereby give rise to the tyranny of "might makes right," where only those with the most "might" are "free."
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The police state forming around us as we speak...
Yes, but why is it forming around us? As Alex's listeners know, the answer is that the police and military have fallen under the control of private interests!
Thanks for making my case for me.
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you're really burying your head on this.
I'm convinced that it's you who are "burying your head on this," not me.
Guess we'll just have to let readers decide for themselves, won't we?
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-geolibertarian
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The difference between (a) the lower and middle classes uniting against the plutocrats and (b) the lower and middle classes fighting each other while the divide-and-rule plutocrats laugh in their faces (or rather at the backs of their heads, if you know what I mean.)
-geolibertarian
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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=105934.120
Actually, their influence over the Government is straight from the Private Banking Cartels, and they are currently allowing our infrastructure to collapse.
Liberty works just fine, but if your definition of Liberty would result in a devestating collapse of the economy if fully (or partially in many respects) implimented, that is not an accurate description of Liberty in my opinion.
Empire is a privatized entity, going back to the East India Company and Lord Shellburne ( A privatized navy ) during the Chinese opium wars. It will always be easier for them to gain control of the money if it is issued by a private entity as opposed to appropriated by Congress and issued by the Treasury. The TARP Bill got a massive protest for 750 Billion dollar - the FED (A Private Bank) has secretly loaned somewhere around 9 Trillion and guarenteed about 4 more in currency that have no value because it was merely printed to pay off bills, nothing was produced with it.
If there was no FED, this secret banking cabal would not exist, and the FED is a private entity.
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RonPaulHatesBlacks Nope. Lincoln abandoned colonization during his lifetime. Sorry, slappy.And the war was about slavery. That what you said when you started it, in the Cornerstone Speech and Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession you still haven't read.The newsletters never went to court. They were written by Paul and Lew Rockwell. Paul made $940,000 a year from them, defended them for decades, and even today refuses to repudiate Rockwell. You lose, slappy. 22 hours ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks It would take more guts for him to defend Lincoln, because it would offend the base of white supremacists who have supported him during his entire career --- David Duke, Don Black, Will Williams, Lew Rockwell, Randy Grey. H__, it would offend a lot of his supporters on Youtube --- they openly defend slavery, celebrate the South, and call for secession and the murder of American soldiers today. 2 days ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks Of course the war was about slavery. The South said so when they started it, in their Cornerstone Speech and the Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession. They said "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world." 1 day ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks Apartheid didn't end "decades" ago. It ended in 1994. Most Americans don't support even one more second of slavery or segregation, because We believe all men are created equal. Others commenting on this video disagree. They believe slavery and segregation NEVER should have ended unless and until the racist South just spontaneously and voluntarily decided to give them up, if ever. They actually support MORE years of slavery and segregation. That's some David Duke, KKK s__ right there. 3 days ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23UXUTUrQIw
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) wrong, svinka.equal Jewish Imperial Capitalists to Jew Communists. it wasnt "Jewish" system. Communist architects were non-Jew English/French/German/Irish/Catholic/Slavic/Spanish/Russian. Communism was Secular Humanism embraced early by vastly more non-Jews than Jews.Jews were very persecuted in USSR. not systematic like Nazis. but they were attacked, for religious identity & Capitalist wealth, not ethnic traits.Nazis attacked Jews for any reason. Bolsheviks only attacked Jews for Judaism. 2 months ago
Whatchagonado Pogroms killed 150k Jews during Lenin's reign alone. Preferential treatment?Stalin believed he could maintain alliance with Hitler for the very reason that they were both interested in exterminating Jews. He didn't realize that Hitler had the same delusion that you do, namely that Communism is not separate from Judaism. I guess that makes all three of you fools.Hatred of Jews and ennoblement of some imagined "white ancestry" is merely a variation on an old "divide and conquer" strategy. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Stalin's USSR was Atheist. all religion outlawed. not just Christian. Jude, Buddhism, etc. all synagogue seized for state use. synagogues destroyed in Kiev, Minsk, Odessa, Rostov, Khurgav, Novgorod, Krasnoy & other.Stalin's anti-Jew purges. he saw all Jews as potential Capitalist spy.Nazis attacked Jews for lotsa reasons. Nazis saw Jew as genetic inferior/oppressive financial parasite.Judea didnt declare war on Germany till explusions/atrocities exposed 1939-40. Nazi revisionists say 1933. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Lenin's USSR & all USSR Atheist. no favoritism toward Jews. all religion outlawed equally except during Lenin's USSR & early Stalin's USSR when they supported & allied with Russian Orthodox Christian church against Fascists & Nazis. even Jewish Communists like Lenin & Trotsky favored Russian Orthodox church occasionally yes.want entire list of USSR cities & republics where synagogues were violently seized or destroyed & Jews killed either while still in temple praying or after running away? 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Birobidzhan Oblast was partly press program to alleviate fear of anti-Semitism in USSR by Jews. they really did try but not high effort. it failed. it's true anti-Semitism in USSR wasnt as extreme as Nazi Germany. but very serious, religiously & financially targeted horror. they thought Jews had harder time resisting wealth/luxury & weak against Capitalist persuasion. it wasnt systematic or as focused as Nazi. but no Jew favoritism nor extreme hateful targeted anti-Semitism like Nazi Germany. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Karl Marx (1883), Nikolai Lenin & Trotsky were Jews but disagreed on policies.Lenin wanted Democratic Socialism; parliament govt; state/local autonomy. No Dictatorship or Corporatism. Democracy/regulated Capitalism.he was poisoned by non-Jew rivals who wanted Rightwing Totalitarian Dictatorship.Trotsky wanted "Social Democracy" yet Federal Govt Corporatism/market Capitalism. no Dictator. no local autonomy.Trotsky murdered by Stalinists who wanted oppressive State Capitalist Dictatorship. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq wrong, svinka.equal Jewish Imperial Capitalists to Jew Communists. it wasnt "Jewish" system. Communist architects were non-Jew English/French/German/Irish/Catholic/Slavic/Spanish/Russian. Communism was Secular Humanism embraced early by vastly more non-Jews than Jews.Jews were very persecuted in USSR. not systematic like Nazis. but they were attacked, for religious identity & Capitalist wealth, not ethnic traits.Nazis attacked Jews for any reason. Bolsheviks only attacked Jews for Judaism. 2 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWX7FH1YiOs
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VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) well too bad. LOL. wah! wah!Yes I do agree! LOL. i agree because i'm a Keynesian Capitalist, yah douche Nozzle!i am only accusing American fake "Libertarians", followers of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Von Mises and Rothbard, who are only for the wealthy, the top wealthiest 1% and big business. i wasnt accusing regular real libertarians like Noam Chomsky. ; D 1 month ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) you're so ignorant of history, it's staggering. LOLFDR didnt confiscate the gold. the Treasury Dept + Justice Dept did with unaminous congressional + legal authority to stabilize the market.they paid generous above market value to all gold standard holders and investors for all gold taken out of circulation, out of Wall St market standards.nobody complained except Pro-Gold Standard Far Right Conservative Laissez-Faire Anarcho-Capitalist Social Darwinist "Free" Market (Fascist) purists. 4 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) yes. the Nazis believed the identical way that you do. they were the strongest promoters of economic Social Darwinism in world history next to the monarchies of primitive Aristocratic imperialist Europe, Russia and Asia. you belong in the 17th century. 5 months ago
http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/FDR-s-Second-Amendment-Ri-by-Mary-MacElveen-100418-270.html
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Do you have a brain? I'm guessing no. Are you not at all familiar with the government aid to farmers, major corporations, and other big business? As far as the social programs, think back to when they are enacted. DURING ECONOMIC DOWN TURNS AND DEPRESSIONS, and you know why, because the public is the one that takes the biggest hit. So people make the choice to vote for social programs, instead of starving. WHITE PEOPLE. And you forgot to address my question as to which branch of the military you have served in.
-SirDaily
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Of course he's including banks and S&L's. S &L's took a dive in the 90's and many banks are taking one now. That's a "lifetime," for sure.
-Stag R Lee
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Heather, you are either informed or hopelessly stupid. Your comment goes back to another thread; one in which I personally traced the mortgage lending to poor communites back to Jimmy Carter when he helped pass the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. Here it is again....http://www.commerce.wa.gov/DesktopModules/CTE... ...In this particular thread--repeat, this thread--I demonstrated how, through the repeal of the Glass Steagal Act, Ronald Reagan and a Republican Congress triggered the current economic meltdown....Again, my question to Heather and to all trolls: Why do you hate America so much? Why do you twist historical data to fit arguments of hatred and derision?
-Stag R Lee
Wednesday, March 24, 2010
A Debate on Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbOE4Ip7In0&feature=related
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I have never misrepresented Paul, and am not infatuated with Lincoln. You haven't studied your savior very well. He opposes every advancement in the history of American civil rights, including the EP and 13th Amendment that ended slavery and the 1964 CRA that ended segregation. He bragged about voting against the MLK holiday. He cast the only vote to send our taxes to fund the genocide in Darfur. And he made $940,000 a year writing and publishing (with Lew Rockwell) insanely racist newsletters.
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Nope. You unconstitutionally seceded because America elected a Free Soil president who threatened the expansion (and thus future) of your beloved slavery, the Cornerstone of your culture, religion, society, and government. That's what you said at the time, in your Cornerstone Speech and Mississippi, Texas, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession. You should read them sometime.The North wasn't perfect, but it was better than your alternative of neverending slavery.
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Slavery would have lasted another 100+ years. It was the Cornerstone of the South's entire culture, society, religion, and government. The Southern constitution barred any and all laws limiting slavery in any, at any time, forever. Neither Lee nor Davis fought for abolishing slavery---Lee oversaw slaves until December 1862 and Davis defended slavery his entire career.Either you're glad We the People ended slavery in the 1860s, or you support MORE years of slavery.
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Either you have some reason to try and hurt RP's rep and misrepresent him or you have some infatuation for Lincoln and will readily bash anyone who doesn't think he was perfect. Wouldn't doubt you're paid from what your channel consists of..As far as RP not liking other races, never heard him say anything bad about another race, but I know he does believe in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence which says ALL men are created equal. He also speaks honestly, even if its not popular
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Every single Northern state peacefully and voluntarily abolished slavery. They gave black people FREEDOM, the ability to read, move and travel, gain an education, and improve their lives. The South tried to build a nation on the Cornerstone belief that all men are NOT created equal, and adopted a constitution that barred any and all laws limiting slavery in any way, forever. You sought to own, rape, whip, and lynch black people until the end of time. No, thanks. All men are created equal.
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Read the South's own Cornerstone Speech and the Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession. The South declared that Northern abolitionists had been demanding an end to slavery for decades, and America then elected a Free Soil president who threatened the expansion (and thus future) of their beloved slavery, the Cornerstone of their religion, culture, society, and government.Read, study, research, THEN post.
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We the People ended Southern slavery in the 1860s. Either you're glad slavery continued no longer than the 1860s, or you support even MORE years of slavery. It's really that simple. If America had surrendered, the South would still be a separate, segregated, apartheid nation. Blacks would be denied civil rights, education, and the right to vote, Interracial marriage and anti-lynching laws would not exist, and slavery would have lasted 100+ years. No, thanks. All men are created equal.
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Nope. All anyone with an open mind needs to do is read your own Cornerstone Speech and Miss, Georgia, Texas, and SC declarations of secession. You obviously never have.Lincoln was in the middle of the war, so some slaves had to wait an extra two years. That's better than your alternative of neverending slavery and segregation.No other country had 4 million slaves owned by racist traitors who seceded and started a war to save it. Obviously.Which races do I consider inferior, coward?
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You're an idiot. Lincoln didn't start the war. The South did, over slavery, before he could even take office. And the federal government did not impose Black Codes. Some Southern states had Black Codes decades before the war, and they all adopted and/or strengthened the minute We the People won the war and passed the 13th Amendment you hate so much.I'm a racist? Which race(s) do I consider inherently inferior? It's a simple question.Why can't you answer?
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After the war, the South imposed 100 more years of segregation, and ended that only at the point of Northern guns. Slavery would have lasted at least that long; indeed, the Southern constitution barred any and all laws limiting slavery in any way, at any time, forever. Hell, some people on this board would own slaves today if they could.I'm a racist? Really? Which race(s) do I consider inherently inferior?
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Okay RonPaulHatesBlacks does not like to look at the whole picture of what happened. First of all Lincoln wasn't against slavery he was against the expansion of slavery. The South's desire for independence had very little to do with slavery and more to do with the taxes that the Federal Government was placing on their economy. Less than 30% percent of Southerners owned slaves so why would the other 70% percent want to go to war with the North? Also only after the North was losing the war..
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Lincoln did care about the slaves. He was a Free Soiler who opposed the expansion of slavery. And his thoughts are irrelevant, because he didn't start the war. The South did, over slavery, before he could even take office. He responded by freeing the slaves, which is why folks like you hate him.And, actually, We the PEOPLE formed the federal government via a perpetual and more perfect Union and a Constitution that forbids unilateral secession.
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The second sentence of Mississippi's declaration says:"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of the world." Oops!!!The word "tariff" does not appear. The word "tax" does not appear. Oops!!!Instead, Mississippi said it seceded because the North dared to "advocate negro equality" and to form "associations to carry out its schemes of emancipation."All anyone has to do is read the South's own racist words.
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The South unconstitutionally seceded and started the war over slavery, as you freely admitted in your Cornerstone Speech and the Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession. You should read them.The EP freed as many slaves as it could, given that America was in a war at the time. Neither it nor the North was perfect, but they were better than your alternative of neverending slavery.Lincoln did not establish Liberia and abandoned colonization during his life.
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That's what I said. He was a Free Soiler who opposed the expansion of slavery. That's why you unconstitutionally seceded and started the war in the first place. Lincoln wasn't perfect, but he was a lot better than your alternative of neverending slavery.No, We the PEOPLE created the Constitution and federal government, with its perpetual and more perfect Union, and federal guarantee of a republican government in all states. You've obviously never read the Constitution or attended law school.
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More lies. Slavery was not "on its death bed." That's absurd. You seceded to preserve it, and adopted a constitution that barred any and all laws limiting it, forever. When We the People sought peace in 1861, every single one of your demands related to the permanent protection and expansion of slavery.The EP immediately freed at least 20,000 slaves, freed millions more as We swept through the South, and made the 13th Amendment inevitable.The Morrill Tariff passed AFTER secession. Oops!!!
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Ron Paul interviewed on CNN's "The Situation Room" speaks out against the Armenian Genocide Resolution Bill. He is also the individual who voted against action being taken about the genocide in Darfur, voted against Rosa Parks being awarded a Golden Medal. This man makes me SICK!
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Friend of J Reply:March 18th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
J,
I’m with you all the way. I’m not going to join the LaRouche youth movement any time soon, but I completely agree with his / Tarpley’s take on economic and political issues.
By Ron Paul’s logic, he should refuse a salary and give me back all my tax contributions, since nobody had a right to take them from me. They should sell all roads, libraries and public schools to the highest bidder (some Rothschild bank subsidiary) and give me a check. There should be no police or fire departments, no water delivery or waste treatment unless you subscribe to a private service.
Sounds like a frigging great idea. Since the “free market” turns everything it touches into either a slave plantation or casino, let’s embrace it and blame some corrupt bureaucrats for everything. Anything good that republican government ever achieved was either a fluke, a conspiracy, or really something to do with capitalism. There is no such thing as Abraham Lincoln, the “New World Order” is where Satan creates fixed-rate currency exchange agreements, and the US Constitution is a book about the free market you’re not allowed to read that was written by Murray Rothbard.
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ArksmnokOfWiksunkor Says: March 18th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Ron Paul is part of the oligarchy and as such part of the NWO. He only interprets liberty in the way it suites him and his oligarchy fellows interests using double speak and generalizations. He is only afraid that he as dentist would not have the possibility to earn the amount of money he earns now if he and his medical and pharmaceutic lobby fellows would be forced to make reasonable prices for their services and provide good health for all the people. He is only afraid that he would then lose his special elitist status. Ron Paul is elitist and social darwinist hiding behind libertarian disguise who wants only that some chosen few can afford medical care. With his propaganda Ron Paul is helping the elite NWO to fulfill their eugenic agenda by not providing the health care for the ones that elites don’t consider worth of living healthy lives and so reducing their reproduction fitness and death rate. So if you support Ron Paul you only support NWO elites in fulfilling their eugenic agenda.
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5 days ago
Mississippi did, too. They said "Our position is thoroughly identified with the issue of slavery --- the greatest material interest in the world." They said that a blow at slavery "is a blow at civilization," and that they could only secede or suffer the "degradation" of free black people:sunsite . utk . edu / civil-war / reasons . html#Mississippi
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6 days ago
Actually, the cotton gin INCREASED the demand for slaves from 700,000 in the South at invention to 3.5 million in 1860. His own museum website says: "While it was true that the cotton gin reduced the labor of removing seeds, it did not reduce the need for slaves to grow and pick the cotton. In fact, the opposite occurred. Cotton growing became so profitable for the planters that it greatly increased their demand for both land and slave labor."__, haven't you studied American history at all?
simont7
5 days ago
@tikkigod011 Funny . . . South Carolina thought it was about slavery:americancivilwar. com /documents /causes_south_carolina. html
RonPaulHatesBlacks
1 week ago
Actually, the war did start over slavery. That's what the South said when they started it, in their Cornerstone Speech and Mississippi, Georgia, Texas, and South Carolina declarations of secession. Their declarations cited slave and slavery eighty-two separate times.
finister88
2 weeks ago
Rand Paul needs to do his homework. It's public knowledge that bribes were offered and taken to kill the regulation that would have prevented this "accident". Shame on him for calling this oil spill disaster an accident. And shame on him for calling the mine explosion an accident. If repeated warnings had been heeded, that too could have been prevented. "Accident"? Shame on you, Paul Rand.
picou
2 weeks ago
"maybe sometimes accidents happen"?! Tell that to the fishermen, the tourist business, the communities that live and work on the coast, the dead wildlife the ruined coastline....."maybe sometimes accidents happen"?!
franks2732
1 week ago
The funny thing (it is very sad really) is that Libertarians continually engage in the argument that government regulation is the cause of all evils in society. But when a clear example that a lack of Government intervention/regulation caused a company to put profits ahead of safety their answer is further deregulation. The libertarian view is that companies should run their own affairs. Well they did and now millions of people are suffering for it!
franks2732
2 days ago
@19TEC85 tell that to your poor and your overflowing prisons. And when is welfare a bad thing. My country Australia as well as the majority of western Europe welcome it. Society is more than a cheque book
Washington, D.C. Exhausted? Rand Paul looks rested and animated at WHAS. Earlier Paul canceled a national Sunday interview on NBCs Meet the Press after a second day of controversy regarding his ideological positions on civil rights, labor, and support for BP and big business interests despite their role in the Gulf Oil spill ecological disaster. MSNBC Hardball host Chris Matthews reported that Pauls cancelation on NBC was due to exhaustion; however, Paul scheduled an interview with a Kentucky media outlet for the same day. Cancelations are rare for Meet the Press as there have been only 3 similar cancelations in the 62 year history of the program.
RonPaulHatesBlacks
3 days ago
It's amazing you put up with it for this long. You have to understand that most neo-cons have never even studied US history, much less graduated with a degree in it. They support the South's cornerstone of racism and slavery for the obvious reason, which has nothing to do with the facts. But they're ashamed to make their real argument in support of slavery and racism, so they pretend to be trained historians. But they've never studied it, so they resort to unsupported claims and flat-out lies.
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@StonewallJackson26 Thoisands? Baloney! You make it up as you go along. Atlanta and Columbia were really the only significant cities that were destroyed. Agriculture was destroyed to deny its use to the Confederate armies. The Lawrence massacre was in August, 1863...very much during the war. Two hundred unarmed men were murdered. I could mention the Ft Pillow massacre, but murdering African American soldiers was passe for the Confederates generally speaking.
saulpaulus
3 days ago 2
@StonewallJackson26 It has NOT been disproven. It has been denied. So has the Holocaust. Both are true just the same. The South was NOT one big Andersonville. Northern prisons were as bad, that is true, but there is only one reason any of them existed: racism. The Confederacy refused to allow prisoner exchange to include African Americans once Lincoln allowed them to serve as soldiers. Therefore prisoner exchanges were ended and prisons were set up.
saulpaulus
3 days ago
@StonewallJackson26 I have suggested that many probably did. You are throughing around statistics with reckless abandon. The majority of those 600k+ deaths were northerners and far and away most deaths were due to disease. If most southerners had opposed secession which was treason, there would have been no war, no deaths, and no destruction. I should add that Confederate armies were hardly innocent. They kidnapped African Americans and took them south into slavery.
saulpaulus
3 days ago
@StonewallJackson26 Baloney! The purpose of the Emancipation was to make it clear that there would be a price that would be paid for secession. Lincoln wanted to keep the border states in the Union. Lincoln willingly risked his political future and even his life for the cause of Emancipation. In fact, Booth made his decision to assassinate Lincoln after he heard Lincoln give a speech advocating rights for freedmen. Your comment really slanders Lincoln.
saulpaulus
3 days ago
@StonewallJackson26 I think you mean 5% were large slaveowners, but yes a substantial majority of Southerners owner few if any slaves. But the non-slaveowning majority did not choose to rebel against their own elites. They supported them in their rebellion against the US govt. Why? In many cases, it may have been because they aspired to be large slaveowners themselves and did not want the US govt to deprive them of that right.
saulpaulus
2 days ago
@kirundo1 The slave trade was illegal long before the Civil War. Prior to its becoming illegal, slave ships generally went to ports in the south or the Caribbean. US forces entered parts of the so-called Confederacy to suppress a treasonous rebellion against federal authority that began because of Southern fears of abolition.
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But SLAVERY wasn't unjust, isn't that what you think, Johnny Reb? LOL!!!
Typical Southern lies from Southern scum. The North did not INVADE the South... first lie. The SOUTH attacked Ft Sumter. The SOUTH was and is part of the USA. Lincoln could not have attacked his own country.
The govt has abused citizens who opposed ANY war, from the Revolution (post-war persecution of Loyalists) to Vietnam. That means nothing. So what?
Lincoln was shot for the same reason Dr. King was shot, and Bobby Kennedy for that matter. John Wilkes Booth = a fascist racist reprobate. Too bad he didn't live for a public hanging.
Lincoln's racism is irrelevant. The war was fought over SLAVERY, and any pro-CSA traitor saying different is a historical revisionist = liar.
Like you, Johnny.
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The US military was never defeated in Vietnam. Never lost a single major battle. US forces turned over South Vietnam to the South Vietnamese government after a treaty had been signed with North Vietnam promising not to invade the south. The NVA assessment of the war had been that they were losing the entire time and the US could not be militarily defeated. Russian advisers were appalled at the lack of effectiveness of NVA and especially Viet Cong troops.
The North Vietnamese waited until all US combat forces were withdrawn then violated their own treaty and invaded the south. US embassy personnel evacuated along with hundreds of South Vietnamese personnel.
The 10 year Vietnam War stopped the domino theory in it's tracks. Massive US military and economic aid turned the Pacific countries at risk from their susceptability to communism into strong capitalist allies. Japan. South Korea, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, and other countries supported the US and South Vietnam and kept communist insurgencies from any effective influence in their own countries. In Indonesia alone, 100,000 communists were killed by the government to make Russian and Red Chinese influence totally ineffective. The domino theory failed and Russia expended far more money than they could afford in support of North Vietnam. This expensive 10 year war in Vietnam along with Soviet setbacks in Angola, the Congo, Egypt, Cuba, Nicaragua, Berlin, and elsewhere nearly bankrupted the entire Soviet Union. President Reagan's "Star Wars" missile defense system was the last straw. The Soviets could not raise the funds to compete with America's technology edge in defense systems and space exploration. The Soviet Union collapsed and crumbled. The US won the Cold War and it was won largely because of Vietnam
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I have never misrepresented Paul, and am not infatuated with Lincoln. You haven't studied your savior very well. He opposes every advancement in the history of American civil rights, including the EP and 13th Amendment that ended slavery and the 1964 CRA that ended segregation. He bragged about voting against the MLK holiday. He cast the only vote to send our taxes to fund the genocide in Darfur. And he made $940,000 a year writing and publishing (with Lew Rockwell) insanely racist newsletters.
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Nope. You unconstitutionally seceded because America elected a Free Soil president who threatened the expansion (and thus future) of your beloved slavery, the Cornerstone of your culture, religion, society, and government. That's what you said at the time, in your Cornerstone Speech and Mississippi, Texas, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession. You should read them sometime.The North wasn't perfect, but it was better than your alternative of neverending slavery.
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Slavery would have lasted another 100+ years. It was the Cornerstone of the South's entire culture, society, religion, and government. The Southern constitution barred any and all laws limiting slavery in any, at any time, forever. Neither Lee nor Davis fought for abolishing slavery---Lee oversaw slaves until December 1862 and Davis defended slavery his entire career.Either you're glad We the People ended slavery in the 1860s, or you support MORE years of slavery.
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Either you have some reason to try and hurt RP's rep and misrepresent him or you have some infatuation for Lincoln and will readily bash anyone who doesn't think he was perfect. Wouldn't doubt you're paid from what your channel consists of..As far as RP not liking other races, never heard him say anything bad about another race, but I know he does believe in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence which says ALL men are created equal. He also speaks honestly, even if its not popular
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Every single Northern state peacefully and voluntarily abolished slavery. They gave black people FREEDOM, the ability to read, move and travel, gain an education, and improve their lives. The South tried to build a nation on the Cornerstone belief that all men are NOT created equal, and adopted a constitution that barred any and all laws limiting slavery in any way, forever. You sought to own, rape, whip, and lynch black people until the end of time. No, thanks. All men are created equal.
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Read the South's own Cornerstone Speech and the Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession. The South declared that Northern abolitionists had been demanding an end to slavery for decades, and America then elected a Free Soil president who threatened the expansion (and thus future) of their beloved slavery, the Cornerstone of their religion, culture, society, and government.Read, study, research, THEN post.
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We the People ended Southern slavery in the 1860s. Either you're glad slavery continued no longer than the 1860s, or you support even MORE years of slavery. It's really that simple. If America had surrendered, the South would still be a separate, segregated, apartheid nation. Blacks would be denied civil rights, education, and the right to vote, Interracial marriage and anti-lynching laws would not exist, and slavery would have lasted 100+ years. No, thanks. All men are created equal.
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Nope. All anyone with an open mind needs to do is read your own Cornerstone Speech and Miss, Georgia, Texas, and SC declarations of secession. You obviously never have.Lincoln was in the middle of the war, so some slaves had to wait an extra two years. That's better than your alternative of neverending slavery and segregation.No other country had 4 million slaves owned by racist traitors who seceded and started a war to save it. Obviously.Which races do I consider inferior, coward?
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You're an idiot. Lincoln didn't start the war. The South did, over slavery, before he could even take office. And the federal government did not impose Black Codes. Some Southern states had Black Codes decades before the war, and they all adopted and/or strengthened the minute We the People won the war and passed the 13th Amendment you hate so much.I'm a racist? Which race(s) do I consider inherently inferior? It's a simple question.Why can't you answer?
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After the war, the South imposed 100 more years of segregation, and ended that only at the point of Northern guns. Slavery would have lasted at least that long; indeed, the Southern constitution barred any and all laws limiting slavery in any way, at any time, forever. Hell, some people on this board would own slaves today if they could.I'm a racist? Really? Which race(s) do I consider inherently inferior?
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Okay RonPaulHatesBlacks does not like to look at the whole picture of what happened. First of all Lincoln wasn't against slavery he was against the expansion of slavery. The South's desire for independence had very little to do with slavery and more to do with the taxes that the Federal Government was placing on their economy. Less than 30% percent of Southerners owned slaves so why would the other 70% percent want to go to war with the North? Also only after the North was losing the war..
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Lincoln did care about the slaves. He was a Free Soiler who opposed the expansion of slavery. And his thoughts are irrelevant, because he didn't start the war. The South did, over slavery, before he could even take office. He responded by freeing the slaves, which is why folks like you hate him.And, actually, We the PEOPLE formed the federal government via a perpetual and more perfect Union and a Constitution that forbids unilateral secession.
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The second sentence of Mississippi's declaration says:"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of the world." Oops!!!The word "tariff" does not appear. The word "tax" does not appear. Oops!!!Instead, Mississippi said it seceded because the North dared to "advocate negro equality" and to form "associations to carry out its schemes of emancipation."All anyone has to do is read the South's own racist words.
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The South unconstitutionally seceded and started the war over slavery, as you freely admitted in your Cornerstone Speech and the Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession. You should read them.The EP freed as many slaves as it could, given that America was in a war at the time. Neither it nor the North was perfect, but they were better than your alternative of neverending slavery.Lincoln did not establish Liberia and abandoned colonization during his life.
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That's what I said. He was a Free Soiler who opposed the expansion of slavery. That's why you unconstitutionally seceded and started the war in the first place. Lincoln wasn't perfect, but he was a lot better than your alternative of neverending slavery.No, We the PEOPLE created the Constitution and federal government, with its perpetual and more perfect Union, and federal guarantee of a republican government in all states. You've obviously never read the Constitution or attended law school.
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More lies. Slavery was not "on its death bed." That's absurd. You seceded to preserve it, and adopted a constitution that barred any and all laws limiting it, forever. When We the People sought peace in 1861, every single one of your demands related to the permanent protection and expansion of slavery.The EP immediately freed at least 20,000 slaves, freed millions more as We swept through the South, and made the 13th Amendment inevitable.The Morrill Tariff passed AFTER secession. Oops!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BStxubabDhA
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Ron Paul interviewed on CNN's "The Situation Room" speaks out against the Armenian Genocide Resolution Bill. He is also the individual who voted against action being taken about the genocide in Darfur, voted against Rosa Parks being awarded a Golden Medal. This man makes me SICK!
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Friend of J Reply:March 18th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
J,
I’m with you all the way. I’m not going to join the LaRouche youth movement any time soon, but I completely agree with his / Tarpley’s take on economic and political issues.
By Ron Paul’s logic, he should refuse a salary and give me back all my tax contributions, since nobody had a right to take them from me. They should sell all roads, libraries and public schools to the highest bidder (some Rothschild bank subsidiary) and give me a check. There should be no police or fire departments, no water delivery or waste treatment unless you subscribe to a private service.
Sounds like a frigging great idea. Since the “free market” turns everything it touches into either a slave plantation or casino, let’s embrace it and blame some corrupt bureaucrats for everything. Anything good that republican government ever achieved was either a fluke, a conspiracy, or really something to do with capitalism. There is no such thing as Abraham Lincoln, the “New World Order” is where Satan creates fixed-rate currency exchange agreements, and the US Constitution is a book about the free market you’re not allowed to read that was written by Murray Rothbard.
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ArksmnokOfWiksunkor Says: March 18th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Ron Paul is part of the oligarchy and as such part of the NWO. He only interprets liberty in the way it suites him and his oligarchy fellows interests using double speak and generalizations. He is only afraid that he as dentist would not have the possibility to earn the amount of money he earns now if he and his medical and pharmaceutic lobby fellows would be forced to make reasonable prices for their services and provide good health for all the people. He is only afraid that he would then lose his special elitist status. Ron Paul is elitist and social darwinist hiding behind libertarian disguise who wants only that some chosen few can afford medical care. With his propaganda Ron Paul is helping the elite NWO to fulfill their eugenic agenda by not providing the health care for the ones that elites don’t consider worth of living healthy lives and so reducing their reproduction fitness and death rate. So if you support Ron Paul you only support NWO elites in fulfilling their eugenic agenda.
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RonPaulHatesBlacks
5 days ago
Mississippi did, too. They said "Our position is thoroughly identified with the issue of slavery --- the greatest material interest in the world." They said that a blow at slavery "is a blow at civilization," and that they could only secede or suffer the "degradation" of free black people:sunsite . utk . edu / civil-war / reasons . html#Mississippi
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RonPaulHatesBlacks
6 days ago
Actually, the cotton gin INCREASED the demand for slaves from 700,000 in the South at invention to 3.5 million in 1860. His own museum website says: "While it was true that the cotton gin reduced the labor of removing seeds, it did not reduce the need for slaves to grow and pick the cotton. In fact, the opposite occurred. Cotton growing became so profitable for the planters that it greatly increased their demand for both land and slave labor."__, haven't you studied American history at all?
simont7
5 days ago
@tikkigod011 Funny . . . South Carolina thought it was about slavery:americancivilwar. com /documents /causes_south_carolina. html
RonPaulHatesBlacks
1 week ago
Actually, the war did start over slavery. That's what the South said when they started it, in their Cornerstone Speech and Mississippi, Georgia, Texas, and South Carolina declarations of secession. Their declarations cited slave and slavery eighty-two separate times.
finister88
2 weeks ago
Rand Paul needs to do his homework. It's public knowledge that bribes were offered and taken to kill the regulation that would have prevented this "accident". Shame on him for calling this oil spill disaster an accident. And shame on him for calling the mine explosion an accident. If repeated warnings had been heeded, that too could have been prevented. "Accident"? Shame on you, Paul Rand.
picou
2 weeks ago
"maybe sometimes accidents happen"?! Tell that to the fishermen, the tourist business, the communities that live and work on the coast, the dead wildlife the ruined coastline....."maybe sometimes accidents happen"?!
franks2732
1 week ago
The funny thing (it is very sad really) is that Libertarians continually engage in the argument that government regulation is the cause of all evils in society. But when a clear example that a lack of Government intervention/regulation caused a company to put profits ahead of safety their answer is further deregulation. The libertarian view is that companies should run their own affairs. Well they did and now millions of people are suffering for it!
franks2732
2 days ago
@19TEC85 tell that to your poor and your overflowing prisons. And when is welfare a bad thing. My country Australia as well as the majority of western Europe welcome it. Society is more than a cheque book
Washington, D.C. Exhausted? Rand Paul looks rested and animated at WHAS. Earlier Paul canceled a national Sunday interview on NBCs Meet the Press after a second day of controversy regarding his ideological positions on civil rights, labor, and support for BP and big business interests despite their role in the Gulf Oil spill ecological disaster. MSNBC Hardball host Chris Matthews reported that Pauls cancelation on NBC was due to exhaustion; however, Paul scheduled an interview with a Kentucky media outlet for the same day. Cancelations are rare for Meet the Press as there have been only 3 similar cancelations in the 62 year history of the program.
RonPaulHatesBlacks
3 days ago
It's amazing you put up with it for this long. You have to understand that most neo-cons have never even studied US history, much less graduated with a degree in it. They support the South's cornerstone of racism and slavery for the obvious reason, which has nothing to do with the facts. But they're ashamed to make their real argument in support of slavery and racism, so they pretend to be trained historians. But they've never studied it, so they resort to unsupported claims and flat-out lies.
saulpaulus
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@StonewallJackson26 Thoisands? Baloney! You make it up as you go along. Atlanta and Columbia were really the only significant cities that were destroyed. Agriculture was destroyed to deny its use to the Confederate armies. The Lawrence massacre was in August, 1863...very much during the war. Two hundred unarmed men were murdered. I could mention the Ft Pillow massacre, but murdering African American soldiers was passe for the Confederates generally speaking.
saulpaulus
3 days ago 2
@StonewallJackson26 It has NOT been disproven. It has been denied. So has the Holocaust. Both are true just the same. The South was NOT one big Andersonville. Northern prisons were as bad, that is true, but there is only one reason any of them existed: racism. The Confederacy refused to allow prisoner exchange to include African Americans once Lincoln allowed them to serve as soldiers. Therefore prisoner exchanges were ended and prisons were set up.
saulpaulus
3 days ago
@StonewallJackson26 I have suggested that many probably did. You are throughing around statistics with reckless abandon. The majority of those 600k+ deaths were northerners and far and away most deaths were due to disease. If most southerners had opposed secession which was treason, there would have been no war, no deaths, and no destruction. I should add that Confederate armies were hardly innocent. They kidnapped African Americans and took them south into slavery.
saulpaulus
3 days ago
@StonewallJackson26 Baloney! The purpose of the Emancipation was to make it clear that there would be a price that would be paid for secession. Lincoln wanted to keep the border states in the Union. Lincoln willingly risked his political future and even his life for the cause of Emancipation. In fact, Booth made his decision to assassinate Lincoln after he heard Lincoln give a speech advocating rights for freedmen. Your comment really slanders Lincoln.
saulpaulus
3 days ago
@StonewallJackson26 I think you mean 5% were large slaveowners, but yes a substantial majority of Southerners owner few if any slaves. But the non-slaveowning majority did not choose to rebel against their own elites. They supported them in their rebellion against the US govt. Why? In many cases, it may have been because they aspired to be large slaveowners themselves and did not want the US govt to deprive them of that right.
saulpaulus
2 days ago
@kirundo1 The slave trade was illegal long before the Civil War. Prior to its becoming illegal, slave ships generally went to ports in the south or the Caribbean. US forces entered parts of the so-called Confederacy to suppress a treasonous rebellion against federal authority that began because of Southern fears of abolition.
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But SLAVERY wasn't unjust, isn't that what you think, Johnny Reb? LOL!!!
Typical Southern lies from Southern scum. The North did not INVADE the South... first lie. The SOUTH attacked Ft Sumter. The SOUTH was and is part of the USA. Lincoln could not have attacked his own country.
The govt has abused citizens who opposed ANY war, from the Revolution (post-war persecution of Loyalists) to Vietnam. That means nothing. So what?
Lincoln was shot for the same reason Dr. King was shot, and Bobby Kennedy for that matter. John Wilkes Booth = a fascist racist reprobate. Too bad he didn't live for a public hanging.
Lincoln's racism is irrelevant. The war was fought over SLAVERY, and any pro-CSA traitor saying different is a historical revisionist = liar.
Like you, Johnny.
-Barros Serrano
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The US military was never defeated in Vietnam. Never lost a single major battle. US forces turned over South Vietnam to the South Vietnamese government after a treaty had been signed with North Vietnam promising not to invade the south. The NVA assessment of the war had been that they were losing the entire time and the US could not be militarily defeated. Russian advisers were appalled at the lack of effectiveness of NVA and especially Viet Cong troops.
The North Vietnamese waited until all US combat forces were withdrawn then violated their own treaty and invaded the south. US embassy personnel evacuated along with hundreds of South Vietnamese personnel.
The 10 year Vietnam War stopped the domino theory in it's tracks. Massive US military and economic aid turned the Pacific countries at risk from their susceptability to communism into strong capitalist allies. Japan. South Korea, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, and other countries supported the US and South Vietnam and kept communist insurgencies from any effective influence in their own countries. In Indonesia alone, 100,000 communists were killed by the government to make Russian and Red Chinese influence totally ineffective. The domino theory failed and Russia expended far more money than they could afford in support of North Vietnam. This expensive 10 year war in Vietnam along with Soviet setbacks in Angola, the Congo, Egypt, Cuba, Nicaragua, Berlin, and elsewhere nearly bankrupted the entire Soviet Union. President Reagan's "Star Wars" missile defense system was the last straw. The Soviets could not raise the funds to compete with America's technology edge in defense systems and space exploration. The Soviet Union collapsed and crumbled. The US won the Cold War and it was won largely because of Vietnam
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You can go on all day about slavery in the North. This is well-known to anyone familiar with African-American or USA history generally. It has NOTHING to do with the point about the Civil War. The North had ABOLISHED slavery in its states. The trade was GONE. The USA flag had stopped flying over slave ships. It was illegal.
But not in your glorious South! Oh no, they could still buy and sell not to mention grievously ABUSE people if they were labeled as "slaves" (any non-"free" black), and not only that were willing to put the country through bloody hell to retain that evil system.
Y'all can turn somersaults all day trying to avoid that unpleasant reality... pretend it's about states rights, Virginia's sovereignty (LOL... that one really is funny), go on about black Confederate soldiers and slaves in New York and Abe Lincoln's racism or whatever you like but it does not alter the obvious fact that the Civil War was fought over SLAVERY!!!
I can imagine how amusing you'd be if you could be transported back to 1862 to tell all of us how the war isn't over slavery! LOL!!!
John Brown's body lies a mouldering in the grave...
His Truth goes marching on!
---sung by many a Union soldier
But not in your glorious South! Oh no, they could still buy and sell not to mention grievously ABUSE people if they were labeled as "slaves" (any non-"free" black), and not only that were willing to put the country through bloody hell to retain that evil system.
Y'all can turn somersaults all day trying to avoid that unpleasant reality... pretend it's about states rights, Virginia's sovereignty (LOL... that one really is funny), go on about black Confederate soldiers and slaves in New York and Abe Lincoln's racism or whatever you like but it does not alter the obvious fact that the Civil War was fought over SLAVERY!!!
I can imagine how amusing you'd be if you could be transported back to 1862 to tell all of us how the war isn't over slavery! LOL!!!
John Brown's body lies a mouldering in the grave...
His Truth goes marching on!
---sung by many a Union soldier
Wednesday, March 17, 2010
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