Monday, November 16, 2020

Nixak*77*

 Nixak*77*  Anthony66  10 days ago

Further to why your 300 Mn 'potentially' habitable planets in our galaxy [at-least re harboring advance ET civilizations or even harboring complex-macroscopic life-forms] is IMO way too generous & optimistic.


First of all not all of our galaxy is conducive for even harboring star-systems w habitable planets. Our galaxy has a habitable-zone / HZ of its own, which is apparently just 10% of our galaxy's total stellar-volume. Thus that alone cuts your 300 Mn down to 30 Mn.


To-date there have been approx 4000 confirmed exoplanets discovered, but per the study I linked to just 24 of those are considered 'earth-like'. But I've showed that only 1 of those 24 are truly 'earth-like'. In any event that means you can cut the odds down by a factor of 1 / 4000 to 25 / 4000 [I'll pick 1 in 400]. Thus that 30 Mn drops to 75K potential candidates. But out of that 75K candidates, only 7.5% [=0.075] of stars in our galaxy are G-class stars like our Sun, so now you're down to just 5625 candidates -But- Out of about 500 or so exoplanet solar-systems discovered & confirmed, only about 2% [to no more than 10% per the most generous guesstimate] are configured anything like our solar-system- IE: small rocky-planets in the inner orbits w the gas-giants orbiting the outer rings at distances several Xs that of the rocky habitable planet's orbit, & all their orbits aligned in a plane- [FYI-Note: 1 article claims that only ONE such solar-system has been called a 'twin' of our own, which would imply a ration of 1 in 500, but a more recent article says NONE / ZERO solar-systems found so far are truly like ours]... - Thus multiplying 5625 by 2% [0.02] = just 112-113 true candidates- That's most likely only 113 true candidates for habitable exoplanets out of your over-hyped / overly generous guesstimate of 300Mn!!

- And I haven't even applied further filters IE: it should have a moon like ours, atmospheric composition & characteristics like ours, generate a protective magnetic field-shield, have a land-mass to ocean ration similar to Earth's, etc, etc, etc... 

 

 

Nixak*77*  D J  13 days ago

When you & Dennett say teach all kids about all major world religions, does that include atheism too [tho technically not a religion, it is a secular ideological alternative to religion]? Which would / should include societies whose official ideological policy was state imposed / enforced atheism- ala Stalin's USSR, Mao's China, &/or Pol-Pot's / Khmer Rouge's Cambodia??! No 'spin' just the hard-cold facts & truth about what is was like to try to live in such societies whose official ideological policy was state imposed & enforced atheism.

 

Nixak*77*  Sarah  22 days ago

You dredge-up the ole trite lame refrain about Zeus, Odin, Osiris, blah, Blah & BLAH... So pray-tell when did 57% of the World's people ever believe in Zeus, Odin, Apollo, Thor or Hercules, etc... [let alone NOW] -Or- even 1/3 [Xtianity], or 1/4 [Islam], or 1/7 [Hinduism] of the World's people ever believe in Zeus, Odin, et-al??! The fact that 57% of the World's people are of the Abrahamic Faiths tradition(s) must mean something / is an 'inconvenient fact' that your ilk would like to try to just dismiss!!

- One big issue w Rich Carrier type Jesus 'mythicism' is, IMO jokers like Carrier need to explain how the movement of One [who was Judean] who was executed [in the most cruel & humiliating manner] by order of the governor of Rome's imperial occupation of Judea, could make a presence in Rome itself in just 2 - 3 decades after Yeshua's crucifixion- If per Carrier, He [& His crucifixion, too] was all just a so-called 'myth'?!! And then the Greco-Romans even went on to embrace Xtianity which displaced / rendered 'obsolete' Imperial Rome's own 'home-grown' pantheon of gods IE: Zeus, Apollo, Hercules, Mercury, Mars, etc... FYI this is all but unprecedented in human history, generally the 'superior' military, economic & political power [Rome] imposes [oft-times by force] its religion on the conquered [Judea], & nearly NEVER adopts the religion of those they've conquered while dissing its own 'home-grown' religion & gods, in the process. Yet that's why 1/3 of the World's people are now Xtians vs almost NO-One [not even in Italy & Greece] still even worships Zeus, Apollo, et-al.!!

 

Nixak*77*  Nixak*77*  a month ago

Eric.M asserted that the so-called 'radical communists' who per Eric are supposedly controlling the Dim Biden camp, care about nothing but power & will do anything to get it. Eric.M even spewed out the the BLM people would have killed George Floyd themselves if doing so would advance their agenda [IMO a totally LAME / WHACKED & OFFENSIVE HYPE-O-Thetical assertion on Eric's part]. But the fact is the main reason +80% of white evangelicals in the US back Repug Trump, is because they think he empowers them politically!! They certainly can't justify doing so based on traditional Xtian ethics & morality, because IMO Trump personally may well be, not just immoral, but even A-Moral!! Thus their backing of Repug Trump puts POWER over [Xtian] principles!!


- David French went back to 1998 when Dim 'Slick-Willy' was POTUS, I want to go back 18 yrs earlier to Clinton's Dem predecessor POTUS. The rise of the Xtian right in US politics was directly linked to Repug Ronnie Ray-gun's 1980 run for POTUS vs the incumbent Jimmy Carter. IMO Carter was likely the most outwardly religious POTUS the US has had in the last 80 - 90 YRS, maybe. Does anyone here really think Reagan [aka 'Ray-gun'] was personally more religious & decent than Jimmy Carter [of course 'Ole' Ronnie was nowhere near as blatantly crass as Trump is]?? Who here thinks Reagan was smarter &/or more courageous than Carter?? If so you need to research a few things about Carter's background vs Ray-gun's!! Yet the Xtian right went all in for Reagan vs Carter in 1980 not because they really thought 'Ole Ronnie' was a more 'Xtian' &/or decent person than Carter, but IMO because they likely struck a political deal w the Reagan camp that they couldn't get w Carter- IE: they went hard for Reagan vs Carter cause 'Ole' Ronnie.R agreed to empower them politically!!

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