Wednesday, August 06, 2014

Savant's Great Words during August of 2014

The person most subservient to whites herd is you. After all, you don't see me singing the praises of white women while vilifying Black women. You don't see me deifying whites in general while disdaining my own people. Such sickness is yours, not mine. And self-hatred is a sickness---as well as the paranoia of seeing ghosts called "Mace" under every treed, every carpet, every bed, and in every closet. Even before your cognitive faculties disintegrated to the point they have now I warned you that this anti-Black hatred would ruin your mind, what mind you still had left. And obviously it has. If you have an ounce of sound judgment left then you will seek counseling on your own before you are involuntarily subjected to medical supervision.

-Savant

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Well, here's what Dr. King himself had to say about Democrats and Republicans:" This dearth of positive leadership from the federal government is not confined to one political party. Both political parties have betrayed the cause of justice. The Democrats have betrayed it by capitulating to the prejudices and undemocratic practices of southern Dixiecrats. The Republicans have betrayed it by capitulating to the hypocrisy of right wing, reactionary Northerners" (Autobiography of Martin Luther King, Jr., pp. 108--109) By the way, he did comment Eisenhower for his stand in Little Rock, as he would later commend Kennedy for forcing George Wallace to back down, and Johnson for supporting the Civil Rights Act of 1954 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Notice King commended PARTICULAR ACTIONS, when they coioncided with justice--but NO PARTY

-Savant
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Racism and Communism are different ideologies and tendencies. BOTH political parties have a tawdry record of racism, but both are (and have always been) anti-Communist. So stop using empty rhetoric. In fact, it is interesting that in America the most militantly anti-Communist have more often than not been the most militantly racist. No one was more anti-Communist in the bad old days as the Dixiecrat segregationists and their reactionary Northern Republican allies. But one thing that did happen is that due to the pressure of progressive movements in the 1960s, especially the Black Movement, the national Democratic party was pushed in a more liberal direction. At the level of national politics this meant a kind of alliance of moderate and liberal Democrats with moderate and liberal Republicans which facilitated civil rights victories at the federal level--isolating reactionary Dixiecrats and right wing Republicans. Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign helped to bring together right wing Republicans and reactionary Dixiecrats in what became a foreshadowing of the neoconservative movement which would reach its peak in government during the Reagan Administration. What many people fail to recall is that in the 1950s ALL Republicans were not conservative or right wing. There were rightists, centrists and liberals in both Republican and Democratic parties. King knew this; Hence he never supported a particular party, only certain programs. Had a liberal Republican won the 1960 elections and did (under Movement pressure, of course) essentially the same things as were done under the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, that Party would almost certainly have a large (if not majority) part of Black electorate today. But with Barry Goldwater's public opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights law, an opposition which helped switch many Dixiecrat votes to the Republicans--but evoking vehement opposition from Dr. King and the Movement--Republic ans began to wreck any chances they might still have for AA voter support. The passage of a large number of voter restriction laws by Republican administrations in various states, only reinforces the image of the Republicans as the anti-Black party--not the party of Lincoln or Emancipation. Publicly stated opposition to the Civil Rights Act by both Ron and Rand Paul nearly fifty years after the fact, hasn't helped either.

-Savant

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Uncle Tom A___ Clarence, as one Black nationalist called him, is controlled by the Republican wing of the corporate elite. Clarence Thomas, who is always berating poor Blacks for using racism as an excuse for their own inadequacies, was himself screaming about a "high tech LYNCHING" when called to answer accusations about sexual harassment. But I wonder: How did he vote when the Republican majority Supine Court decided to gut the Voting Rights Act last summer? The enforcement clause, I mean.

-Savant

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Actually, Dr. King was NEVER a Republican, though Daddy King was for awhile. King, Sr. seems to have shifted from Republican to Democrat to support the Kennedy bid for the presidency. Again. in his Autobiorgraphy Dr. King stated that he preferred to stay clear of BOTH parties. Ironically, that one point on which Martin and Malcolm X both agreed.

-Savant

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Let's be clear. Dr. King was cautious about both parties, and would only support certain policies or programs, not parties. After all, both Kennedy/Johnson and George Wallace were Democrats. There were in those days still liberal or progressive Republican who supported civil rights and reactionaries (like Goldwater) who opposed it. Edward Brooke was a black liberal Republican, and supporter of civil rights. Barry Goldwater was a right wing white Republican who opposed it. So, what do you do? Worry less about the labels and more about the ideas, policies and programs.

-Savant

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In fact, it is the Left that has supported revolutionary developments in Africa--including those magnificent Black leftists, Dr. King and Malcolm X. It was the Right--like Reagan and his negro lapdogs--who promoted "constructive engagement" with the fascist regime in South Africa. It was they who backed up traitors like Chief Buthelezi. It was the left and progressives who supported groups like the ANC and the PAC. We revolutionaries and progressives also raised material support for FRELIMO, PAIGC and other revolutionary forces in Africa. Just because you're a right wing reactionary, militant Islamicist fundamentalist and possibly COINTELPRO agent, doesn't entitle you to lay claim to the work of others--work which you and your fellow reactionaries have tried to undermine.

-Savant

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Obama got a little over 40% of the white vote in 2008, and 35% of the white vote in 2012. He's the only Black and one of the few Democrats since Johnson to win that large a part of the white vote. But he didn't get half of it. Both in 2008 and 2012, Republicans still got a majority of the white vote.

-Savant

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Oh yes. Black and white reactionaries have more in common that immediately meets the eye, and more than they will admit. No wonder the American Nazi party was sympathetic to NOI in the time of Elijah Muhammad.

-Savant

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"I choose to identify with the underprivileged. I choose to identify with the poor. I choose to give my life for the hungry. I choose to give my life for those who have been left out of sunlight of opportunity...seei ng life as a long desolate corridor with not exit sign. This is the way I'm going. If it means suffering a little bit, I'm going that way...If it means dying for them, I'm going that way." Martin Luther King, Jr. "The Good Samaritan," Chicago, August 28,1966 Check this out in GOING DOWN JERICHO ROAD: THE MEMPHIS STRIKE AND MARTIN'S LUTHER KING'S LAST CAMPAIGN, by Michael K. Honey

-Savant

Tuesday, August 05, 2014

Nelson Mandela and Dr. King

Dr. King was concerned about the MOVEMENT rather than saving his ass. And I noted in his speeches Mandela is also very cautious when discussing socialism and communism (with which he was charged). In America, the real hero was KING, not Nkrumah--though Nkrumah was admirable and King admired him and the Ghana Revolution. King not only SUFFERED but lost his life in the struggle. Nkrumah mainly lost his power after the 1966 coup. Nkrumah was a Marxist, as any philosophically and politically literate person who has read him can tell. Dr. King was a non-Marxist socialist as any literate person willing to do a bit of research can discern (and which COINTELPRO apparently did discover, even if they stupidly equated Kingian socialism with Marxism). Like King, I honor Nkrumah for his leadership of Ghana's fight for freedom, and his often insightful analyses of the situation of Africa and her struggles. Like Nkrumah,Ben Bella, Mandela and others I honor King for his courageous commitment to the liberation of Black people, and his commitment to justice and liberation for every man, woman and child on earth. 

-Savant

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It is good that the people of Ghana voted for Nkrumah at that time--that they were ABLE to vote for Nkrumah. But at that time at least 60% of African Americans lived in the South, and COULD NOT vote. Most of my kindred lived in the South, and could not vote. We must honor the struggles of King and others for winning the right to vote--a right possibly eviscerated by the Supine Court's gutting of the Voting Rights Act last summer. And I don't think that King and others were facing guns, dogs, clubs, whips,tear gas, kkk bombs and prisons just to save their a____.  Nor do I think that any Black person seriously committed to Black liberation could conceive it in that way.
 -Savant

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Read up on Gramsci and Lukacs to find out about their organizational affiliations. It's common knowledge. But as this thread is not about them, or even about Marxism where it doesn't relevantly intersect with a discussion of King's legacy, I will not pursue any lengthy discussion of them....or others. 

-Savant

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YOU posed the question about their organizational affiliation, and I instruct you to find out. I don't intend to spend too much time talking about them either in a thread about King's legacy. Also, I do not intend to spend too much time discussing NKRUMAH in a King thread unless it's closely related to an serious assessment of the legacy of King. You are free to start an Nkrumah thread if you wish to discuss Nkrumahism

 -Savant

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Dr. King had the mixed blessings of living in a bourgeois democracy, a racist republic with fascist tendencies rather than full blown fascism (which could still happen in the USA). Mandela lived in a FASCIST POLICE STATE. In South Africa, nonviolent protestors were not simply tear gassed and whipped, but gunned down. Nonetheless, King's activity cost him his life--possibly at the hands of COINTELPRO---at age 39. Brothers Mandela and Nkrumah were at least able to die in old age. Under both Fascism and bourgeois democracy there is a cost may have to pay for commitment to struggle Fred Hampton didn't even live past 21. And he didn't get a trial as even Mandela did. And Marshall Eddy Conway has lived to relative old age, but has spent more time in prison than did Nelson Mandela.. You pay for your commitment to struggle, though the price varies. We can debate forever who suffered the most, or most severely. Either way, they paid dearly.

 -Savant

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Wednesday, July 30, 2014

1Val's Great Words

1Val • 20 days ago Truth is the original woman the black woman who is often emulated but never duplicated by other women is the first woman to walk this planet. Science has proven Lucy the oldest human fossil belongs to a black woman. Truth is black women have given all other women insecurities about their bodies. For example white men have been drawn to, fascinated, fiends for and lusts after black women every since they invaded and colonized Africa. It was white men who introduced concept of pornography using naked black women as their muse.

Sara Baartman who they dubbed Venus Hottennot exploited in "freak" show that white men sponsored for white men to leer at her divine form. Truth is black woman's body is archetype that all other women's aspire to. Who cares if a boyish figure woman has hair to her hips? Men prefer curves that black women are naturally blessed with not from a surgeon's knife or chemical additives in her body. Truth is black women are the most sexually harassed in workplace.

Why? Because if a blonde blue eyed white woman is a black man's fantasy Beyonce, Halle, Lupita and Serena are white men's wet dreams. But any black woman with an ounce of sense in her head knows that black women's body from slavery where we were raped, forced to breed white man's children to Jim Crow where gang rape was common tactic to control black women who rebel knows that our black bodies have always been desired whether we welcomed their attention or not. And guess what black women weren't wearing weaves to turn white and other men on.

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 1Val • 20 days ago Black people remain the experts on our hair. lol. Ms. Kim and Ms. Lee sell Indian/Remi hair and black beauty products supplied by many black owned suppliers(Luster to black wig distributors Beverly Johnson, Naomi Sims, Sherri Shepard, etc..) in their mom and pop shops. But some of "us" are more concerned by what's on our heads instead of what is in our minds.

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 1Val • 21 days ago Having hair does not define a woman's beauty. In fact, you must be STRIKING to be bald headed like Amber Rose, Lupita Nyongo. Grace Jones, Chrisette Michelle. etc... I'm hard pressed to think of any non black woman who is beautiful without hair on her head. I have worn my hair short for years and have no desire to return to long hair. Short hair accentuates your face where long hair disguises a woman's shortcomings. In other words, I lead with my face/beauty not hair to distract from my facial features. Confidence is the sexiest attribute any woman can possess. You should try it for yourself! ___________

 1Val • a month ago To answer your questions, yes I have been I have been in similar situations where men assumed they were being respectful commenting on my body parts. Like most grown women, I have heard more than my fair share of "compliments" regarding my physique. For instances, breasts comments range from "those can't be real" to you "carrying a fortune on your chest" to " how long have you been a dancer with legs like that" "your teeth are so straight you could be in a lumineers commercial" " your skin is black velvet" " I could get lost in your beautiful eyes" " you are dark and lovely" " if you were a road sign it would say curves ahead" "that's how a black woman should wear her hair like yours" "you've got too much booty for that skirt" and too many silly comments on my backside too mention. How I address men and women who make inappropriate comments about my body depends on my mood, setting and individual. This past Sunday an elderly church lady stopped me as I walked by to inform me that her hips used to bounce like mine when she was my age. All I could do was laugh. First, I was unaware that my booty was jiggling so much so that with her declining vision even she could see it. I made a mental note to self to walk softer throughout service. If she had been my age I would have attributed her remarks to cattiness and addressed her comment. I expect men to be men and objectify women. So possessing that mindset I'm not offended by most men's comments/compliments unless they are truly out of line. Besides, its not about who a man thinks I am when he approaches/compliments me it is who he thinks that he is and he acts accordingly. _____________

 1Val hollyw • a month ago You hit the nail on the head by stating they are mostly talk and will not put their money where their mouths are. They refuse to hold public education accountable and its FREE. So the likelihood of them being involved in something they must finance are slim and next to none. Perfectly explaining why this man is unable to raise a measly five million dollars to open his school.

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 hollyw 1Val • a month ago No truer words. The dedication he requires is missing from most of his "fans", in addition to the finances, and five mil isn't even a lot. I helped raised half that much in one night of fundraising last summer with my org. to fund college scholarships for NYC male youth. They will have forgotten totally about this man in three day's time.

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 1Val • 13 days ago But those white girls have what most black girls and black women Rihanna do not have from society which is RESPECT. Unfortunately, racist and sexist culture has ascribed black women as the face of promiscuity, lasciviousness and Jezebel stereotypes. Thanks to slavery's justification of owners lust and raping black women so we became their temptresses. Its why white culture is so comfortable with stereoypical images of black women being welfare queens and single mothers because they formed and media perpetuates this lie that black women are immoral h___ who love to indiscriminately screw men/women.


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1Val • a month ago Unfortunately, many black males are great at symbolic gestures. I recall Million Man March because black males vowed to take back their lost communities, received awesome press, spark plentiful debates yet yield very little results. Black men who rear their sons step up every day. They don't need a cause, a school or a movement for them to be who and what they are black men. What I find particularly disgusting about black males advocating for implementation of Dr. Umar's school is their hypocrisy. Many of those black males advocating for Dr. Umar have their mothers abandoned to rear their sons, grandsons, uncles, nephews and male cousin that they do absolutely nothing for or with. For you see it is not the public school system's systemic racism that is the only problem for black boys. It is black males refusal to be men in black families advocating, protecting and providing for those black boys in that school system. But we can not be honest by addressing that elephant in the room by blaming white people and feminist black women for black males failures to be men in their familis. Yet have audacity to proclaim themselves leaders of the black community.

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1Val • 2 months ago He's clearly has given advice but that doesn't make him worthy of dispensing advice. Again, his credibility has everything to do with words coming out of his mouth. For any adult male to engage in a sexually inappropriate relationship with a 17 years old child, commit adultery being a pastor then have audacity to berate women by resorting to gutter language of misnomers for women being side chicks and hoes as if he is ordained by God is utterly ridiculous. As for your claim on mudslinging it is the Word not I states," For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?" Timothy 3:5

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1Val  2 months ago

Since you went there none of your comments add anything to this conversation. If you enjoy listening to Stephen Smith kudos to you. I'm of the opinion that Stephen Smith is an apologist for racism and with this rant against Tiny a sexist moron also.
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1Val  3 months ago

Onyx is a chain strip club owned by a white capitalist targets urban markets. What I find distasteful about strip clubs are exploitation of dancers. How many women actually own strip clubs in USA? And those men many of whom are NOT paying child support or have college funds for their children, retirement accounts or titles to homes and vehicles but wasting money on foolishness in the streets. Apollo is a criminal so he has always practiced poor judgment and suffers from faulty logic.
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 1Val • 2 months ago 50 Cent is textbook misogynist who hates women because of his abandonment issues with his mother. He is not marrying a woman because he hates women because he is mad at his mother.50 Cent being rich doesn't have anything to do with is contempt for women.lol

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 1Val • 5 months ago My husband and I reared our son to love himself. For us loving himself means that he loves black women who look like him. We have stressed to our son that we do not nor have we ever wanted a non-black daughter in law. We did not invest our energy, emotion and resources into rearing a black boy into a black man to benefit non-black women. To be frank only black women are good enough to marry our black son and birth our black grandchildren.

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 1Val • 5 months ago Ruby Dee, Cicely Tyson, Maya Angelou, Nancy Wilson, Toni Morrison, Nichelle Nichols and Diahann Carroll would make great living legends cover. Just a thought Essence.... ____________

 1Val • 5 months ago Something is amiss with younger generations obesity rates. Perhaps its lack of access to parks and open space limiting children's ability to play and exercise. New subdivisions with houses built on top of each other, apartment living and chemicals in foods are producing fat kids. Its a damn shame when most older women's shapes put younger women's bodies to shame.

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 100% Tired KIR12 • 11 hours ago Black poverty has dropped by half since 1960. The birth rate among unmarried Black women has been dropping since 1992,women are acting more responsibly, not less. Black men are 100% in control in preventing their "unwanted" kids. The law states that you have 50% of the responsibility in caring for your the offspring that you create. Black Feminism is nothing more than a term for the weak and controlling black male to blame yet something else for his failures. What happened to the Black males core values that are based on the Bible and Christianity? Condoms are at least 98% effective when used correctly. One minute you claim that there are relationships built on trust and emotions which is why people don't use condoms, but the moment the woman becomes pregnant, you change the story to "she didn't take responsibility for her body"???????????????? Just STFU dude. Black men are the last ones who should be preaching anything to black women.

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 100% Tired KIR12 • 11 hours ago I don't live in any fantasy..I responded to your statement about poverty because you seem to be implying that illegitimacy is the sole driver when in fact poverty has been on the decline throughout the years, even with illegitimacy on the rise.

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Monday, July 14, 2014

Savant's Words in July of 2014

Some Africans are well informed, though I'm not so sure about most of the Africans posting in this thread. I doubt that most Africans in this country are refugees. Some are businessmen. Many are students. I have a lot of African students: Nigerians, Ghanaians, Senegalese, South Africans, Ethiopians, Eritreans, Kenyans, Tanzanians and others. In fact, I've even had the pleasure of teaching the grandson of JULIUS NYERERE. As for their knowledgeability regarding African American history and culture, it varied. Collectively, it seemed to me that South African Blacks knew more about us than did other groups of Africans. They were likely to have read about our Movements, to have read the works of Dr. King and Malcolm X especially. This was probably due to the fact that the apartheid regime was strikingly similar to the Jim Crow system of this country. And now that their movement has succeeded (as ours did in the 1960s--70s) in destroying the LEGAL (not De Facto) framework of the system of racial caste, they are beginning to face problems similar to what we've seen develop since the 1960s. But I also have found a good number of Africans from other countries who are reasonably informed. And then there are those who are quite ignorant, some perhaps even ignorant of their own history...Many of them are into the social media culture and other diversions. In that respect they are very much like many of our own African American brothers and sisters who not only know little about Africa, but who couldn't tell you who W.E.B. Du Bois was, and would not know about King if it wasn't for all the excessive media attention to his "I have a Dream" speech in January of each year. 

-Savant

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Believe it or not, I've noticed that also. All Africans do not have a sense of Pan African solidarity. At social gatherings, I've noticed certain tensions, maybe misunderstandings between Africans of different countries. And we know there are sometimes tensions and conflicts between different groups within a given African country, the situation between Hutu in Tutsi in Rwanda being probably the most extreme case in the 1990s. Yet, there is also a sense of Pan-African solidarity among some Africans from different parts of the Continent; and in some cases it even reaches out to peoples of African descent in the Western Hemisphere. I've not seen much evidence of this in Topix, and certainly not this thread. But I have seen it at times in the real world.

-Savant

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Is the left useful in helping African people solve their problems? We can debate that. But I suspect that a good number of African leftists think (or thought) so. Men like Nkrumah, Nyerere, Fanon, Cabral and others. And AA leftists like Dr. King, post-Mecca Malcolm X, Paul Robeson, Kwame Ture thought so. And most of what Africans and African-Americans have achieved has been done under the leadership and in movements tat were at least moderately left-of-center.

 -Savant

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 IN the final analysis King, the revolutionary Christian and socialist, affirmed his solidarity with the disinherited and the dispossessed, with the exploited and oppressed. In that respect he was like the Hebrew prophets Isaiah and Amos.

 -Savant

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 Despite some of my friendly criticisms of friend and brother philosopher Cornel West, I basically agree with his argument in DEMOCRACY MATTERS: WINNING THE FIGHT AGAINST IMPERIALISM, that the prophetic tradition is the primary source of what is still progressive, revolutionary and liberating in the three Abrahamic religions. This is the part of the tradition that inspired King, that inspired the Abolitionist movement, that inspired El Salvador's Bishop Oscar Romero. And notwithstanding my own markedly secular perspective, it was the prophetic tradition in the form of what Rufus Burrows call "homespun African American Social Gospelism", learned from my mother, that first awakened my social conscience as a child--a conscience that remains awakened even if in a more secular form. So, despite my skepticism, I do not simply dismiss any and everything a religion holds. While even the prophetic tradition--as I fold West in person and in an essay on his book--has its own flaws, it may be an important part of the democratic tradition, the whole quest for social justice, and a force that may help hurl back barbarous assault of religious fundamentalism. And as I said on the Marc Steiner show here in Bmore, I'm willing to work with Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus and whoever else is willing to join--not in fratricidal religious wars--but in righteous struggles for social justice.

-Savant

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Some us know a half truth is a whole lie. Voter suppression isn't just about having a picture ID...it's about fewer precincts in minority areas, cutting hours-days for early voting etc. What's ironic about your post is that you fail to mention high level GOP members were caught on tape admitting the laws are created to suppress the votes of minorities to win elections. Then you fail to mention that the courts already struck down these voter suppression laws. For example, it was found the South Carolina’s proposed voter-identification law would hit black precincts the hardest, keeping thousands from casting ballots. Likewise, Alabama’s voter-ID law found that it would place its largest burden on black voters who lack acceptable forms of identification and don’t have immediate access to alternatives. And while most of these laws—which, it’s worth noting, were adopted in most of the states of the former Co nfe deracy—provide for free identification, it’s not an easy reach. To get one in Mississippi, for instance, residents need a birth certificate, which costs $15 and requires the photo identification they don’t have. They’ll also need time to travel to the state office to pay or a computer to do the transaction online. These are conservatives judges who ruled to strike down these laws...how do you explain that if what you say is true. Then you show support for the Koch Brothers, the same family that funds the radically, racist conservative Te e Part y that works night and day to destroy black people/..your name explains everything about you.

 -David Jones


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The Truth 76:

The Koch Brothers money helped Republicans win majorities in state legislatures. Those Republicans dominated legislatures redrew the lines of voting districts diminishing the power of black voters and giving themselves a clear advantage for years to come. The Koch Brothers financed the campaigns of the current crop of Congressional Tea Party obstructionist, who prevent congress from passing any legislation that would benefit Americans Wages have been flat at least decade now and the Koch Brothers want to insure that they stay that way. Corporate profits have reached a historical high. Corporations and billionaires like the Kochs are holding on to those profits. The Koch Brothers and republicans are working to prevent workers from having bargaining rights, wage increases (Not even an increase in the minimum), access to healthcare or retirement plans. 25 Million will cover a 4 year degree for something like 2000 students. Possibly educating 2000 students does not begin to make up for what millions of Americans are losing because of the Koch's political agenda. When those 2000 students graduate; many will not be able to get jobs because the Tea Party candidates that the Koch's paid for have repeatedly obstructed the presidents jobs legislation. Those who do get jobs will work longer hours for less pay as they battle the stagnate wages. They will also struggle with shrinking benefits packages and no bargaining rights. They will receive a free education that will serve no purpose after the Kochs finish stealing the hope of any prosperity in the future. Perhaps the Kochs will let some of them come and clean some of their homes. Obviously some of you would like that.


http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifestyle/11-benefits-of-green-tea-that-you-didnt-know-about.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/obama-regimes-awesome-hypocrisy.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/us-news-lying-sack-spin-warmonger-hamas-charter-want-kill-jews.html

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/24/257868/gop-wall-streets-reactionary-party/

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/09/13/261308/romney--obama-in-service-of-wall-street/


http://blackagendareport.com/content/why-our-black-political-class-paralyzed-and-silent-gaza-massacres-and-israeli-apartheid#comments

http://www.njfac.org/King-jobs.htm

http://newsjunkiepost.com/2013/01/20/obama-no-mlk-but-leading-man-of-humanitarian-imperialism/

http://trggradio.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/40-years-of-the-war-on-drugs_51fe10028e876_w1500.jpg

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Friday, July 11, 2014

Regina Taylor's Excellent words on the Zimmerman Trial

Just because O'Mara pulled that stunt in court, proved nothing. He was not there that either. The timeline proves nothing. And, yes, I do believe that because he still had the items from the store proves that he in fact, never made it home, because the killer cut off his path and chased him back towards the T. What about the 2 minutes that are not accounted for, when the killer claimed he was going back to his car, after telling the dispatch to have the police call him, and he would tell them where he was? This is totally overlooked by you, and the prosecution overlooked it also.

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It is clear you did the same. The killer never said he was punched in the back of his fat head. He said he was punched once in the nose, which supposedly broke it, and he fell, and then the head slamming happened, which was his self serving lie, which was witnessed by no one.

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Once again, there was NO DNA on either of Trayvon's hands. No blood, no skin, no saliva, from the so called smothering, and no sweat anywhere on his hands or body, or on the sidewalk. Nothing. What don't you get about that? Are you so blind to see that it is totally possible that gz could have fallen and caused his own injuries to his head? Are you so blind to see that it is possible that the nose injury could have been caused by recoil from the gunshot? The fact remains that the forensic lack of DNA proves that there was no head slamming, and the fact remains that at the time of the shooting Trayvon was in the grass, not at the T or sidewalk, which makes the story of Trayvon being on top of his killer slamming his head on the sidewalk, a bold faced lie.

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Z walked because the prosecution threw the case, and the jurors, at least 3 of them had decided he was not guilty before the first witness ever testified. Trayvon Martin did nothing to his killer, but run from him, and tried to keep him from trying to detain him, and as he begged for his life, he killed him to silence the only other witness to his misdeeds. If you listen to the 911 call, you can clearly hear Trayvon saying, "I'm begging you".

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Your whole argument is assumption, which was caused by O'Mara sitting at his desk for 4 minuttes during the trial. That was not evidence, but just a show, as was the piece of concrete that was carried into the courtroom. The right turn you are talking about is making no sense. Even the killer did not claim that Trayvon made it home and doubled back.

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 My ancestors were from Africa, and forced to be here. Whether I call myself AA is of no concern to you. Get over yourself. Also if you fill out any application where what race you are is asked, there you find a space, with AA next to it. President Obama had nothing to do with it. He was asked his thoughts on this travesty of justice, and he answered the way he chose to. Get over that too.

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Z was not even close to being a cop. Nor did he claim that the teen was doing anything but walking in the rain, not walking across anyone's property in the middle of the night, it was a little after 7 pm, and the most recent robbery was 6 months prior. The teen was unarmed, and was coming home from the 711, not planning some crime on a Sunday evening when most people are at home. Z and common sense, no way. Since when is walking suspicious? Z never said that the teen was doing anything else until the call continued. If the teen circled the car and reached in his waistband would a person with common sense have exited their vehicle for an address, after claiming suspicion? Z lied mutiple times, to justify his own aggression. Again, there was no DNA on the teens hands to prove a head bashing. Again, no proof of a broken nose from any Dr. or medical records, since the killer never was seen by a Dr at any ER or hospital. The killer had called the non- emergency number, and that should have been his part in this, as it was ever other time he called about some supposed crime. Out of his own mouth was his motive for getting out of his vehicle. "These a- holes, they always get away".

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 When did the judge say that she agreed with the verdict? All the "evidence" was the killer's stories, which were not given by him. The only real witness is dead. The facts were not facts, but the killer's self serving reenactment, a photoshopped picture, an expert that did no testing on an actual hoodie, but killed a living animal, and a cartoon. The other evidence was vantage point testimony, after the shooting, a witness that saw 10 seconds of a tussle, and turned it into mma style punches, than recanted, family and friends of the killer, that lied and claimed that the one with the gun was screaming and a person that had a home invasion style crime by 2 black males 6 months prior to the shooting. The real evidence was no proof of any broken nose, no cement head bashing at the time of the gunshot, as the teen's dead body was some 40 feet from the T in the grass, and last but not least, there was NO DNA from the killer on either of the victim's hands. The jury completely ignored this. Also had the Dr. that did the victim's autopsy been able to actually testify, he would have said that the lungs of Trayvon collasped and filled with blood, preventing him from speaking at all. The prosecution threw this case, because they were forced by their governor to try it, instead of their standard of choosing their own cases to plea out, or take to trial. Two of the jurors should not have been seated. One's husband was a lawyer, and friend of O'Mara, the other had a son that was a lawyer also. They thought they were the smartest and forced their opinions that were biased from the moment they were chosen. They had the not guilty verdict before the first witness ever testified.


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You have no idea what you are talking about. This young woman had a deformity called an underbite. She also speaks 3 languages, creole, jamacian, and english. She also had no idea what to expect in a courtroom testifying about a horrible incident in her life. This was totally the fault of the prosecution by not preparing their most important witness. They left her in a room by herself the first two days of the trial, with only the video of her depositon with Atty. West to watch. They also did the same with Dr. Bao, not preparing him, and not giving him his deposition from a year prior, or meeting with him until the 4th of July for an hour or so. Like I said, you have no right to comment about things you have no knowledge of. Ugh. She does deserve a chance to further her education, whether you think so or not.

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 That is not true. He profiled Trayvon based solely on his race and gender. The very first thing out of his mouth to dispatch was "We've had some break ins in my neighborhood", which during the trial was the focus. The home invasion 6 months prior by two black males, that got away. The last witness the defense put on the stand, was the victim of that crime. The prosecution should have asked if Trayvon was a part of that break in. The only thing the two black males had in common with Trayvon was the color of their skin. The killer absolutely racially and criminally profiled Trayvon. Period. You cannot have it both ways.

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 It absolutely mattered to him. You have no idea whether his killer grabbed him or tried to detain him or not. And you are right, the teen had absolutely none of his killer's DNA on his hands, the supposed weapons, that caused the life or death boo boo's to his killer. As far as bruised knuckles, you are flat out lying. Trayvon had a small scratch on his left hand ring finger that measured 1/8th by 1/4th an inch. And still no DNA from his killer.

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 There is no way that you followed this trial. Trayvon was on the phone with his friend all the way to the 711, and all the way back from this store, up until, he asked his killer "Why are you following me"?, and his killer's response, "What are you doing around here." Came back from where, his home? If he made it there, why would he still have his items from the store still with him? If he attacked a total stranger, and caused the life or death injuries with his hands, why NO DNA?

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 Try this one. Your 17 yr old teen is walking home from the 711, early evening, and is all of a sudden followed first by car, and then on foot by a total"stranger". Your teen is unsettled and describing this to a friend on his phone, calling the person following " creepy". The friend advises your teen to run, which he does, and feels he has lost the creepy stranger, and then realizes that the stranger is again behind him. How is asking, " Why are you following me"?, escalating the situation, that the creepy stranger started? You act as though Trayvon was supposed to know who this stranger was. At least I don't out and out lie. Rachel never, not once said that Trayvon made it home. Your links are useless because I don't need them. I watched the entirety of the trial, and my link was the 18 circuit court discovery evidence, including witness statements, written and verbal, depositions, the reenfakement video, autopsy, ballistics, and DNA evidence. There was no proof that the expert did any real testing on a hoodie, versus a live animal that he killed. Had the medical examiner been allowed to testify, he would have clarified the fact, that number one, Trayvon's lungs collasped and filled with blood, and that he would not have been able to speak, and number two, he was not on top of his killer when shot and killed. The prosecution threw this case, because they did not want it. It was forced on them by the governor of Florida. If anyone is brainless, it is you and your useless azz links. Also mr. Pudgy had been working out for a year at an mma style gym, and no matter, he was not running when he found his " suspect". Trayvon told Rachel that he had lost the creepy azz following him,,and he was by his father's place and was just going to walk fast, not run, as he had to lose the creep. Then as they were talking, he realized tbat the creepy stranger was behind him again. There was absolutely no testimony from anyone, including the killer that Trayvon backtracked to confront. The killer claimed that Trayvon came from behind him, but the exact opposite is what really happened.In the reenfakement the killer claimed to still be on the phone with dispatch as he walked back to his car, and when he got to the T, he was still on the phone with dispatch, when he claimed the teen came up behind him. Why was none of this heard on the call??? He never mentioned hanging up with dispatch before he reached the T. Stupid,not caring about justice, prosecution.

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 Dismissed, as it should be. You can't profile, because of a break n 6 months earlier, by 2 other AA males, then profile Trayvon, and claim no racial bias. You cannot have it both ways. Race was always the elephant in the room. Period. You dodged a bullet, killer. Now.....Go Away!

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 There was absolutely no sworn deposition by the killer. A walk through reenfakement does not qualify as that. A wrritten statement or interviews by SPD does not qualify either. The prosecution would do this, and they did not. They would have preferred to cross him on the stand, and of course he avoided this, although they would have not done a great job at that either. The forensic evidence was not even challenged, because the prosecution did not bother to hire an expert for the state to disprove or challenge the defense expert. Your assumptions about what I think as far people out to get people makes you wrong. The rest of your rant, is just that, a rant. I am not impressed. Save it, for someone, other than me.

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 The only reason that gz made the call was because he Racially and Criminally profiled the teen. In my mind that is racism and a civil rights violation. Walking while black is not a crime, yet. Also you along with the jury paid no attention to the forensic evidence, that was clear. There was None, I repeat None of the killer's DNA ANYWHERE on the teen's hands, which there should have been, after the so-called life or death beating he claimed to have received by the teen. He was able to hop out of the police car, (handcuffed no less), and walk unassisted into the station. He never once asked to go to a hospital to be evaulated, for at the least a concussion, or to verify the so-called "broken nose". SMH. One other thing, there was never any witness to the provacation, except the killer and his many "ever changing stories", and a cartoon, that should have been strenuously objected to, and not been allowed as "evidence", by the prosecution to the judge. That alone, proved that the state threw this case. Justice my eye.

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 The evidence was not challenged by the prosecution. Read the book, " Suspicion Nation", by lawyer, Lisa Bloom, who was in court everyday of the sham of a trial. How would Trayvon have known that the killer called the Non emergency line on him? Who told him this, his killer? The killer received an A grade in his self defense course, he knew just what to say. He is a liar, and the only other person to challenge his lies is dead. There was No DNA evidence on the victim's hands or any DNA, blood, brains on the sidewalk to prove some head bashing. Nothing at all. Yet he claimed a life or death beating. Such a liar he is. The prosecution was pathetic, and left it up to the jury to figure out the other side of the story. They never spoke for the victim. The only victim. Trayvon Martin. They did not prepare their two most important witnesses, nor got an expert of their own to refute the defense expert. Who, by the way testified in other murder trials for the defense, at 400$ per hr. Those cases were lost. A cop and a music mogul, were found guilty of murder. The only calls admitted into evidence were the last 6 that were made. All those calls showed a paranoid man with mental issues, no wonder he was on psychcotopic drugs. There was nothing reasonable about anything gz did after he made that call. Nothing.

-Regina Taylor

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Other Important Links:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/12/chris_christie_other_republicans_wont_sign_anti-pollution_petition.html

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/01/13

http://www.ibtimes.com/blackout-how-argentina-eliminated-africans-its-history-conscience-1289381

http://www.ctka.net/2010/coogan_ajones_pt2.html

https://revolutionaryfrontlines.wordpress.com/tag/black-agenda-report/

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T83C5VG0OM8C8STMN/p5#c106

https://web.archive.org/web/20130508211915/http://wikispooks.com/ISGP/organisations/Pilgrims_Society02.htm#fascism02










Wednesday, May 07, 2014

Wisdom

Notice that it is the CONSERVATIVES who are the most racist, whether Republican or Democrat. And what Dr. King observed in the 1860s was that opposition to Civil Rights came from an ALLIANCE of right wing racist Dixiecrats and right wing northern Republicans. First of all, it was the MOVEMENT by millions of Blacks and their allies which caused the pressure which led to the passing of any Civil Rights bills. And it was (in terms of government) an alliance of LIBERAL Democrats and Republicans which pushed the Bill through congress. The liberal shift among Democrats seemingly began on a large scale with FDR. It was then the Democrats began to erode nearly universal Black support for the Republican Party. The Republican movement toward the right and the Democrat movement toward the "left", especially during the 1960s, is what solidified Black support for the Democrats. It was already a bad sign when it was the Kennedys rather than Nixon who intervened to help gain the release of Dr. King from jail in 1960. It led to Martin King, Sr. to shift his support from Nixon to Kennedy. Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act (which got him some Dixiecrat support) help wreck any chances of him getting the Black vote in 1964, and severely hurt Republican chances of regaining Black support. It caused Dr. King himself to openly and publicly oppose Goldwater (though Dr. King, unlike his dad tended to avoid politics at that level). I know Goldwater was the reason my parents voted for Johnson, and why they'd never consider voting Republican. Robert Smith is correct. White racism cuts across political and ideological lines. But it is most vehement on the Right. And it appears Lyndon Johnson was right that his support for the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts (recently undermined by a conservative Supreme Court) would lose the South from the Democratic part for a generation.

-Savant
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Wrong, m___, And there have been many studies and investigations by scholars and human rights groups (e.g. Amnesty International) which show that Blacks and Latins are even TODAY mainly the victims of racism, not the perpetrators. There have been studies by psychologist at Harvard U saying that anti-white animosities among Blacks are far less common than anti-Black animosities among whites. Interesting considering that there is no record of African Americans oppressing whites, but a ton of evidence of whites oppressing Blacks--and oppression and injustice is the core of racism (not mere prejudice) Even today---and there has been studies to to show this--employers often regard Black college graduates with NO prison record as more desirable employees than whites with a prison record and no college education. Duh,,,,Get out of your white bubble of self-delusion and get in touch with the real world,

-Savant

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Actually, Fanon's position isn't quite that simple since he argues that some African countries 9unlike Algeria) might be able to achieve their ends by means other than violence, through political action. Fanon has certain depth and creativity as a thinker which surpasses even Nkrumah. For Fanon, decolonization occurs at the level of being. I will see whether the persons you quoted REALLY have much understanding Fanon. As far as your that I want to keep Africa enslaves--which I imagine must have been the reasons I spent the entire 1980s supporting revolutionary movement in South Africa and other parts of the Continent--your claim is a non sequitur, an silly Ad hominem, and simply stupid. It follows from nothing I've posted, and not even from your so-called critique of my position, But if you want to play that game, then perhaps you are misusing Nkrumah to divert attention from reality and to conceal your own shortcomings.. As for your equating Angela Davis and George Jackson with Karenga (despite their radical critiques of Karenga which anyone can read), that only reveals further your political and philosophical illiteracy. And given my own frequent denunciations of Karenga, your assuming that I am pro-Karenga is either dishonest, stupid or both. I've long suspected Karenga of being a COINTELPRO pig, just as some of your own antics make we wonder if you're aren't an undercover pig as well. As for Nkrumanism, at least as practiced by the AAPRP, I've long seen it used for opportunist purposes. Nkrumahism for them seemed to operate as an excuse not to engage in Black Liberation struggle in the USA, Nkrumah may have been a brilliant man and pioneer of African liberation, but his followers. Perhaps you are hiding behind Nkrumah to conceal your lack of commitment--if not your out and out treachery.

-Savant

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Revolutionaries often read and influence each other. Mao also authored principles of discipline, which included "take no liberties with the women", and take nothing from te people, not even a piece of bread, etc. It also appeared in BPP writings. Whether Mao or Nkrumah issued this first, I don't know. As for Confucianism, which virtually every philosopher on earth has heard of (and which Mao and his revolutionaries critiqued and denounced unmerciful), it is probably the oldest and most influential philosophical tendency in China--roughly like Platonism in the West. This may surprise you, but I didn't get my degrees in Philosophy from Sears n' Roebuck. I'm certainly not less knowledgeable of Philosophy than Nkrumah or Stokely, and I gather from their writings that in some areas of philosophical research I may even be more informed

-Savant
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AFRICAN PHILOSOPHY: ESSENTIAL READING by Tsenay Serequeberhan, a well known brother philosopher from Eritrea. I worked with him for awhile. He has many other works too. I will mention some of them over time.

-Savant

http://brothawolf.wordpress.com/2014/07/21/the-reporters-comments/

http://socialistworker.org/2014/02/04/fifty-years-of-the-war-on-poverty?quicktabs_sw-recent-articles=4-18

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/09/you-vs-corporations/

http://louisproyect.org/2014/06/30/john-v-walsh-ralph-nader-and-the-right-left-alliance-no-thanks/

http://www.workers.org/articles/2014/07/23/across-u-s-migrant-bashing/

http://www.workers.org/articles/2014/07/22/brooklyn-n-y-gentrification/

http://imgarcade.com/1/carmelita-jeter/






Saturday, April 12, 2014

Savant's Words


I am essentially in agreement with what you're proposing here. i especially want to emphasize the creation of cooperatives simply because they're economic forms which REQUIRE democratic participation and governance in ways not require, or not even possible, with capitalistic enterprises. Some of the programs offered by SNCC and the Black Panther Party can (with some modification in light of contemporary realities) be still relevant and useful. And they can help[ us lessen whyite capitalist economic power over our communities. The only problem is that there must also be changes in the larger society--fundamental changes. Hence our politics--and by politics I don't mean just electoral politics--must also master the art of useful alliances. While I do not share the same degree of animosity toward liberals as does Abdurratin (since the Right is obviously FAR worst), I wold not rely on them when it comes to FUNDAMENTAL social transformation either. And Dr. King himself argued in WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE, CHAOS OR COMMUNITY that the old liberal coalitions were not likely to work any longer. You may recall that he argues that as our movememnt was transitioning from the fight for constitutional rights to the fight for HUMAN RIGHTS (as Malcolm had argued), a new more revolutionary thrust would have to characterize not only the internal politics of the Black struggle, but also the kind of alliances would would have to make in the future. The liberal coalitions under liberal Democrat administrations (which hardly exist any longer) might have been useful during the EARLY phase of the Civil Rights Movement, but not much after. And it is now LONG after. I am interested in both internal Black political and intellectual efforts which have a revolutionary character. And at least a revolutionary potential must be there in the multiracial alliances which we may opt for in the future. I am convionced that Dr. King was right that we need a "radical revolution of values" and a "radical redistributiion of political economic power."

-Savant


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India has a parliamentary style democracy which, as far as I can tell, is not a religious state. it is predominantly Hindu. And it would hardly surprise if Hinduism influences politics as Christianity influences our politics here. But just as the USA is predominantly Christian wihout having a Christian state, India seems to be predominantly Hindu without a Hindu state.(Some of my preogrssive Indian students do express concerns about the rise of a kind of Hindu fundamentalism which seeks to become political as Islam is in some predominantly Muslim countries). The nearest in comparison in the Muslim world to Indian democracy that I can think of was the Iran which Mossadegh and his supporters were trying to create until our scumbag CIA sabotaged him by means of a military coup. The damage there may have been far greater than we imagine, and not just for Iran. Had Mossadeg succeeded Iran might be today the most progressive nation in the Middle East, and an example for other Muslim countries and progressives in those countries. As one of my Iranian coed philosop[hy students put it: "Dr. Savant, if it had not been for America's CIA there would have been no Shah and most likely no Khoumeini. And my family would not be in exile. Thank you very much America for your example as leader of the free world."

-Savant




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An equal number of Black people voted for Lyndon Johnson and Bill Clinton, who are obviously not Black. No "Black racism" was involved, and your repetition of this claim continually made by white racists indicates that you are yourself a white racist or a white racist Negro. The only people who even question Obama's academic competence--claiming that he didn't even pass the bar--are white racists. Mainly, you have an Uncle Tom mentality if you think Obama is worst than those presidents who EXTERMINATED Native Americans, enslaved African Americans, raped the Philippines (with 500,000 Filipino casualties), armed fascistic apartheid South Africa to the teeth, destroyed democracy in Guatemala during the 1950s, toppled democracies and democratically elected statesmen like Patrice Lumumba, Mossadegh, Allende, etc. No real socialist, Marxist or non-Marxist, would mistake Obama a socialist or a Marxist. Nobody who is familiar with the ideas of Marx or Obama would mistake Obama for a Marxist.

I've yet to find even ONE REAL MARXIST who regards Obama as being among their number. And as someone who teaches Philosophy--and Marx was a philosopher deeply formed by the Enlightenment, German Idealism and Greek philosophy--I can generally tell pretty quickly what philosophical or ideological tendency is central to one's thinking. Moreover, I've read BOTH Marx (and some Marxists)and Obama; you HAVE NOT. So, I think it's not unreasonable to dismiss your opinions on this matter. Marx was one of the great modern philosophers. And as is the case with other philosophers as well, you might find that reading Marx will not only cure you of insomnia, but also of a certain obtuseness

-Savant

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T7A5SSUSHTH1FR934/p14

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/indialantic-fl/T6090PF10PL8ALV2D/p30





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Oh, there are a lot of presidents even worse that GW Bush. Obama I consider to be mediocre. He's actually HIGHLY intelligent, well read, and with some background in progressive struggles as a YOUTH. But he's like a lot of FORMER progressives and revolutionaries I know who latter went into politics. Too many deals, too many compromises, and eventually there little commitment left to the progressive ideals of their youth besides occasional lip service. Some older brothers in Bmore--I could introduce you to some of them--who were staunch civil rights warriors, Black Panthers (original ones), fighters for the poor and the oppressed, are now singing a different tune. Occasionally they have a flash of moral consciousness, a flash of the old social consciousness when some especially offensive injustice has happened. We saw this with Obama in relation to the arrest of Skip Gates and the murder and exoneration of the murderer of Trayvon Martin. But those flashes of consciousness don't seem to last. Obama COULD have been a great President, perhaps akin to a Lincoln or the "Black FDR" that some liberals and progressives hoped he would be. It's too late now even if he wanted to. That train has left the station. And his comments about economic inequality is too little, too late. Still only white racists and buck dancing black buffoons thank that Obama is the WORST president ever. REASON has nothing to do with their opinions.


-Savant

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I doubt that the ruling class is trying to put down the emergence of the Convention Peoples Party because you're to marginal to be concerned with. Probably not even 1% of Black people in America even know you exist. You're not like SNCC or the Black Panther Party in their heyday. As for Obama, even those things you say which has an "element" of truth, they can be said about nearly ALL political leaders, and about many even more so than about Obama. Hence you SPECIAL animosity against Obama can't be due simply to his lackluster record. There's definitely an element of anti-Black racism there, and even anti-progressivism even though most progressives will tell you that Obama is NOT one. Notice that I am angry with Obama because of the WEAKNESS of his health care"reform" which still leaves the corporate system intact, and the public with no non-corporate option. Universal single payer should have happened, or at least the public option. Reactionaries are against health care reform altogether.

Corporate domination is ok with them, thanks you very much. Black (and other) progressives think his interventions with the case of Gates or his comments regarding Trayvon were too little, too late. Reactionaries have the effrontery to accuse Obama of being a "black racist" simply because of his absurdly mild criticisms of white racism. The problem you reactionaries have with Obama is that he's not right wing as you. Our problem is that he is TOO RIGHT WING already! And so is the Democratic Party, mainly because it clings to the center--a center that has been shifting to the Right since the time of Nixon and Reagan. You reactionaries are heading toward an American Fascism, and want to take the country with you. You must be stopped, even if it comes down to armed confrontation (should all peaceful means fail). Our fight against you reactionaries is like the fight against Slavery described by Wendell Phillips: " This is a fight of civilization against barbarism." 

-Savant

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 I not only have a position, but effectively critiqued and destroyed your idea the "racism" of Blacks is evidenced by Blacks voting for Obama. Due to your racist arrogance, and your intellectual incapacity to answer my critique, you simply took the attitude of being dismissive and repeating your refuted position.\ 95% of Blacks voted for LBJ and for Bill Clinton. Your problem with Obama are not the LEGITIMATE problems that a progressive and honest citizen might have. Your REAL problem is with him is racial. And you express your racism while projecting it on others. Whites tend to devolve because of their immersion in racism, which often takes the form of subservience to conservatism---which today means most often the Republican Party. When the Democrats were the MOST RIGHT WING PARTY (at least in the South), they were embraced by the same kind of people whom now embrace the Republican Party. When Goldwater came out against the Civil Rights laws--thereby guaranteeing that at LEAST 90--95% of Blacks would vote for Johnson in 1964---we saw the beginnings of the movement of racist white Dixiecrats voters and politicians to the Republican Party.(Ironically, my parents vote for Spiros Agnew, with some regret, because Md. Democrats ran the segregationist Mahoney for governor. This was the first and last time they voted Republican). Nixon's "southern strategy" and Reagan's thinly veiled racist appeals helped to consolidate reactionary and ignorant white voters behind the Republican banner. No wonder a KKK GRAND DRAGON stated that the Reagan platform couldn't be any better unless it was written by the Klan.

As for affirmative action, it is an effort--inadequate though it has been--to redress damages inflicted by centuries of racism. Hence the logic of it is antiracist. Interestingly enough, Dr. KIng--whom you like to appeal to without understanding--also FAVORED affirmative action, often on both racial and class grounds. He compares it to the reform measures taken in India to redress the damage done to the "untouchable." (Try READING King and studying some work by King scholars, you nitwit. Start with WHY WE CAN'T WAIT) Most opponents of affirmative action have been, like you, white racists crying about racism. As for Obama's qualifications they were as good as average, maybe BETTER than average, considering that most American presidents have been mediocre--or LESS. He's certainly one of the best educated persons to occupy the office. He HAD to be to get elected.

White privilege might allow a white moron to get elected, but Blacks don't have that privilege. My objection to Obama is that he had an historic opportunity to lead the nation--albeit against stiff racist and reactionary opposition--in a more progressive and humane direction. He COULD have been, as Colin Powell mistakenly called him, a TRANSFORMATIONAL leader. But he settled for being mere another transactional politician with the usual political deals He could have inspired progressivism, but instead helped to contain it. Now he talks, like Dr. King, about economic inequality and economic justice. Fine. Only it's too little, too late.

-Savant
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Some people have a capacity for sheer human stupidity that is not to be underestimated. So, there were Frenchmen and Poles who collaborated with the Nazi occupation. There were even Jews who collaborated. There were South African Blacks like Chief Buthelezi who collaborated with the apartheid regime. And even the famous 300 Spartans were betrayed by a fellow Greek called Ephialtes. The labor movement had its sell outs. Under patriarchy it is often women who exercise the task of policing young girls and training them to a life of subservience And have we forgotten those AA traitors who worked with COINTELPRO to infiltrate and destroy the civil rights movement, Malcolm's OAAU, and the Black Panther Party? If you begin a movement for freedom, or if you're just trying to survive a situation of oppression, know that there will be traitors in your midst.

-Savant


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True. While growing up in the projects of East Baltimore I was exposed to few whites other than merchants, cops and slumlords. It hardly occurred to me to date or marry a white person. Even while at Vanderbilt University, which brought continual exposure to whites on a more regular basis, I had little interest in them socially. I think I dated two or three white females (one in France) in my entire life, and never sought a relationship. I'm not OPPOSED to IR relations, but simply wasn't interested in going there. Even the non-AA woman to whom I was once married was a BLACK Latina from Dominican Republic. My beloved Mia is a beautiful AA sister from Louisiana who--ironically--I may not have met had it not been for Hurricane Katrina. And while I was single I actually dated more sisters from Africa and the Caribbean than white. In short, my preferences for relationship and marriage didn't really change when I moved from the "hood" to the professional middle class. I'm more like Denzel or Barack than Tiger or Justice Thomas.

-Savant
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HITLER and BLACKS

 People in this forum, as well as the one which states that Blacks NEED a Black Hitler, ought to be aware of Hitler's attitudes toward Blacks....Also what happened to Blacks in Germany. Many of your probably don't know that there was an anti-Black Holocause in Germany. Recently, a book has been written on it called HITLER'S BLACK VICTIMS. Hans Massaquoi, a man of African descent who survived Hitler murderous rage, has written an autobiography recently. I forget the title, however. Hans Massquoi survived Hitler, came to the USA in about 1950, and for years wrote for EBONY magazine. Two of my colleagues who are historians confirm what I've been reading and hearing about the destruction of the Blacks of Germany. One of my colleagues who is a historian suggested that there may have been as many as 25,000 Blacks (mainly Africans, and children of African men and German women) until Hitler destroyed them. If Hitler had won the war there would not be 37 milllion Blacks in America today. We ould almost cetainly have disappeared before I was born. Dr. King would not have survived adolescence to lead any civil rights movement. And, obviously, would be no Barack Obama, nor a percipient philosopher and man of letters like Savant. People who admire Hitler are twisted. And any Black who even suggests the idea of a Black Hitler ought to be put under psychiatric care. If you admire the legacy of King, Fred Douglass, Fannie Lou Hamer and W.E.B. Du Bois, then you cannot also consistently think in terms of a Hitler-type leader as desirable.

-Savant
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 All wrote: Two reasons MLK was murdered. April 4, 1967 he voiced his opposition to the vietnam war and one year to the date, April 4, 1968 he was shot in the "mouth". That's what they infer when they call us cry babies and whining. The second reason was the Poor People March on D.C. The "powers and principalities in high places" will never allow equality in sny form to upset their pluto democratic system. JFK was murdered partially due to allowing black people to march on D.C. in August 1963. 

While I'm not completely sure about JFK, I'm pretty sure that you're spot on regading the reasons for the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. Ironically, it was the Black Panther Party which while not embracing King's nonviolence, were the Black group committed not just to a Black movement, but a movement of the poor and exploited---and unifying the disinherited and the dispossessed. What we learned from the FBI documents related to the COINTELPRO operations is that the FBI were more afraid of Panther IDEAS and PROGRAMS than about a few shotguns and leather jackets some of them owned. Dr. KIng talked about the need for a "radical redistribution of political and economic power"--which is what the Panthers also called for. That's reason, I believe, why King was killed. And the reason why the Panthers were suppressed.  

-Savant


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attai1 wrote: Sir, I don't think Barack Obama is any indication of real "Black Power" in the USA. The posts above signed "All" and those by sir Savant are destroying any illusion that the present incumbent of the still basically "white" House has ever pushed forward any Black agenda, not even strong reforms to improve the situation of Black Americans. The Health care reform, so botched up by the Democratic Congress even before the Boehner guerilla, has basically been the only credit Obama has in this direction and it is extremely limited. Definitely he has not been the Black F.D. Roosevelt you could see on a famous 2009 poster. But as you say this presidency is going to sleep now : we can fear both a dreadful Hillary candidacy or any whitey revengeful Rep lunatic. Obama has done nearly nothing but his simple existence has stirred the putrid anti-Black nature of the USA. The more I read Solomon Northup's 1853 book, the more it is obvious to me. How do you personally and your party see the rise of a possible Black Superpower ? I feel it would be a great step forward for the whole earth and could happen during this XXIst century but we're still very far from it in 2014. 
-a euro-whiteboi 


Too little, too late. If Barack Obama intended to move on a PROGRESSIVE agenda-against the racists and plutocrats--he'd have needed to do so immediately, certainly not later than the FIRST year in office. He gave signs that he might do that before taking office. When the Chicago Window and Doors workers occupied the plant which intended to lay them off without even their severance pay, Obama actually said that the workers were RIGHT in doing so? This was before President-elect Obama had even taken office. 

I wondered: "Could it have happened? Can it POSSIBLY happen in politically backward America? A president who is on the side of the WORKING PEOPLE, the poor and the oppressed?" Then we saw him compromise away the health care initiative. OK, it's better than NOTHING --which is what the Republicans offered, and all America previously had. But we could have gotten SINGLE PAYER universal health care, or at least the PUBLIC OPTION. All we got was some tinkering reforms of a still corporate ruled health care industry. Obama at least floated the idea of a bail out for HOMEOWNERS and renters. After all, the banks had been bailed out by both Obama and GW. So, Obama reasoned--and quite correctly--the banks and corporate cliques who destroyed the economy should not be allowed to continue evicting people. At the very least a MORATORIUM on foreclosures and evictions for a year to 18 months ought to be enforced. Sounds good? Yeah, but Obama backed out when he got opposition from Republicans and even some Democrats. Instead of taking his case before the American people and putting pressure on Congress, he blinked. And as I heard Bmore Occupy protestors saying "The banks got bailed out and we got sold out." Why the continued embargo on Cuba? Why the compromise with the cops after the Skip Gates incidents? Can't Obama even defend the BLACK BOURGEOISIE from racist attacks? 

Why not come to the defense of Mrs. Sherrod --a heroine and (I believe) widow of the Civil Rights Movement? His words on behalf of the Trayvon Martin family was ok, but still too little and too late. OK, there's some movement---also very late in the day--to easy the racially discriminatory judicial practices related to the disastrous "war on drugs." Again, way late in the day. It's so late in the day now that if Obama were to try to morph himself into a synthesis of Dr. KIng, Malcolm X, John Brown, Bill Haywood, and Nelson Mandela --all rolled up into one--there's little that he can do in the two years he has left. And will he do even that little?

-Savant
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I don't defend Arabs against Jews, or Jews against Arabs. But I will support innnocent victims of religious or ideological intolerance, be they Jew, Arab or other. In Yugoslavia during the 1990s, I would be morally compelled to defend persecuted Muslims against murderous Christian fascists following Milosevic. In the Middle East, I might actually have to support SOME Muslims against others.(Al Quaeda is killing more Muslims than has anyone else since Milosevic). In Iran, predominantly Muslim Iranians who want greater freedom should be supported against Muslim clerical authoritarians who are suppressing freedom. Had I been around in 1953, I might have supported Iranian sovereignty under democratically elected Mosadegh, a man of Muslim faith,against Imperialist coup plotters of the CIA, coming from the very Christian land of America. There may be cases where I have to defend Christians or Jews from Muslim persecution, or vice versa. My position is to try to be in moral solidarity with the oppressed, especially the poor, regardless of their creed or color. Religious and racial wars are sooooo archaic, fascist and inhuman. 

-Savant


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The Founding Fathers mainly had no resume, nor is that essential for being a good leader. There is no global depression, and at any rate the economy is not worse than when Obama took office. It is not simply erroneous but stupid to claim that the recession is worse now than before. At any rate, depressions and recessions are also an inherent part of the way capitalism works. If you accept capitalism stop complaining about the irrational way in which capitalism works. Also, Barack Obama was never a slaveowner or a mass murderer of Native Americans. Since slavery and genocide are about the worst crimes anyone can commit, Obama--with hi many shortcomings--is superior to the slaveholding and genocidal founders of the republic. Race relations are worse only when you white racists and reactionaries make them worse. After all, whites invented racism. Obama does SHARE some of the responsibility for the troubles between the USA and the Muslim Middle East. But that's because he--like other political leaders are instruments of corporate imperialism. 

GW Bush started those wars in Iraq and Afghanstan. Obama inherited them. I hold him responsible insofar as he has allowed Bush's war to become his war. Actually, capitalism is turning America into a big ghetto, or a Third World country. And the policies that contribute most to that are the right wing policies of your conservative leaders, and the piratical profiteering of the 1% Yes, the chickens are coming home to roost. Your white corporate overlords are reducing your general standard of living to that of the Black and Latino poor. And until you break with the corporate ideology and racism, until you abandon your racism and enter into solidarity with us, your immiseration will continue and deepen. For those white people who are beginning to open their eyes and do what is needed, they have both my sympathy and solidarity. For the rest of you, well... you're helping to bring ruin on yourselves through your racist blindness and stupid and unreflective adherence to reactionary capitalist values. You're digging your own graves. You needn't be surprise when you are buried by your upper class white overlords---with the aid of your own obtuseness. 

-Savant 

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I've an elder first cousin who married a man from Martinique, and an uncle who married a woman from Ghana. My Aunt Lottie (mother's older sister) was married to a Jamaican. (Her daughter, Addie, married the man from Mozambique--whom she met in college) -Savant  


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With the exception of a Malian (Bambara) woman i dated while in France, every African woman whom I've ever connected with was living in the USA. Often they were fellow students, and later fellow academicians. Or a South African sister like Mercy whom I met here in Bmore during my involvement in the anti-Apartheid solidarity movement. SOMETHING has to bring people togeher, allowing them to know each other for anything to happen. Guess why MOST AA men (regardless of what Topix or TV tells su) date and marry MOSTLY AA women. Could it have something to do with the fact that MOST of us grow up in AA neighborhoods 9even when middle class), go to AA churches, predominantly AA schools and so forth? But I need to think a minute and return to Lisa's post 

-Savant


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