Wednesday, December 30, 2009

9/11 and FBI-Public record proves inside job!

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9/11 and FBI-Public record proves inside job!

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jimd3100:
Two of the hijackers were reported to be living with an FBI informant. Lets look into this interesting fact. By ways of the public record..............

First off, the CIA were tracking the hijackers and knew they were mujihadeen and associated with so called terrorists. They deliberately let them into the U.S.

"A former landlord of two of the September 11 hijackers was an FBI informant at the time, knowledgeable sources confirm to CNN."
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/09/11/ar911.hijackers.landlord/


"U.S. intelligence officials said that in January of 2000, when Almidhar and Alhazmi attended a meeting of known terrorists in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, that fact was communicated by the CIA to the FBI."
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/09/11/ar911.hijackers.landlord/

So the high ups in the FBI were told of these guys already, but the FBI wants to play dumb. Soon they will just flat out show corruption.

"The FBI contends the agency was never told about the two men before August 23 and says it can find no record of any such communication between CIA and FBI to show the information might have been overlooked. The FBI has maintained that position in its dealings with congressional investigators and has asked the CIA to document, if possible, having sent word earlier."
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/09/11/ar911.hijackers.landlord/

They said that because they know damn well it wasn't "documented". And Later the DOJ IG had it's own whitewash report which admitted this.....
"In addition to formal methods of communicating by the CIA to the FBI, much information can be shared with the FBI informally.....In addition, meetings are sometimes held to discuss a matter or a piece of intelligence that is of value to both agencies.....However, they said that not every telephone call or conversation was documented."http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/oig/fbi-911/chap5.pdf

But it's irrelevant because if you read closely the DOJ IG whitewash report there is your proof the CIA exchanged info with the FBI even as far back as Jan 2000..... from the report...
"It appears that this first Malaysia meetings cable was provided to the FBI.
This January 5 threat update reflected an almost verbatim recitation of
portions of the CIA's first Malaysia meetings cable, including the same
spelling mistake in reference to a particular place in Malaysia, which indicates
that the CIA provided a copy of the first Malaysia meetings cable to the FBI. However; we were not able to determine who in the FBI received this
information from the CIA or who edited the January 5 threat update."http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/oig/fbi-911/chap5.pdf

And frankly not only was it documented.... the FBI was asking the CIA about these guys and one CIA member called "James" covered his ass on this......
"James wrote these e-mails in response to an e-mail from another CIA employee who was detailed to the FBI SIOC. That employee reported on the morning of January 6 that he had been asked by an FBI employee for the latest on Mihdhar. James responded in a series of e-mails that he had already briefed the FBI. The final e-mail by James sets forth the details of his briefings."http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/oig/fbi-911/chap5.pdf

Well, what does "James" have to say?
"As previously mentioned, James told the CIA OIG that he had no recollection of these events. He declined to be interviewed by us."
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/oig/fbi-911/chap5.pdf

How about that huh?

"Some members of the congressional committee investigating the intelligence failures and the September 11 attacks knew about the relationship between the landlord and the FBI, and the point will probably come up when the panel holds public hearings, expected later this month."
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/09/11/ar911.hijackers.landlord/

Public hearings! Hooray! That should be real interesting! But guess what?

"The Federal Bureau of Investigation had a confidential informer who rented rooms in California to two of the Sept. 11 hijackers, but the bureau is resisting a request from the Congressional committee investigating the attacks to interview the informer and his F.B.I. handler, government officials said."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A04E7DA153BF935A35753C1A9649C8B63

"Several officials said the F.B.I. had rebuffed requests to make the informer available to the committee and would not authorize the agent who was his contact to testify."

"But Congressional investigators say the F.B.I.'s efforts to block their inquiry makes them skeptical of the bureau's assertions about the informer. They also say the Justice Department has joined the F.B.I. in fighting the Congressional requests for information related to the matter, escalating tensions."


The fight over access to the informer is the latest bitter dispute between the committee and the Bush administration and the intelligence and law enforcement agencies that are the subject of the committee's investigation"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A04E7DA153BF935A35753C1A9649C8B63

In other words Mueller and Ashcroft by order of G Bush are obstructing justice and investigation into 9/11.

But they were unsuccessful as far as the FBI agent goes. He did testify. And we are not allowed to know what he said. It is his testimony that those famous 28 pages redacted were mostly about. But we can piece some of it together.

"Separately, documents made public in federal court in Alexandria, Va., late last month showed that the Justice Department sought unsuccessfully to prevent F.B.I. agents, and the bureau's director, Robert S. Mueller III, from testifying publicly before the joint inquiry."

"Mr. Midhar and Mr. Alhazmi, who were among the hijackers on the American Airlines plane that crashed into the Pentagon, were identified as Qaeda operatives by the C.I.A. in January 2001. But the C.I.A. did not ask the State Department to place their names on a watch list intended to prevent entry into the United States until late August. By then, they were both in the country."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A04E7DA153BF935A35753C1A9649C8B63

That was intentional BTW. So what about this FBI Agent testifying,(that Ashcroft and Mueller tried to prevent) who was the handler of this informant?......

"On October 9, members of the special congressional committee investigating the 9/11 attacks met privately with a key FBI witness. The next day, panel members were to meet in open session with CIA Director George Tenet and FBI Director Robert Mueller. After the FBI agent finished testifying, the open meetings with Tenet and Mueller were summarily canceled."
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/features/saudi_021129.htm

Awww...to bad. I wonder why they canceled those public hearings? And BTW notice it said members of the committee, not the committee. The members would presumeable be the chairmen, Porter Goss and Bob Graham. Who else? Who knows? Someone tried to leak out at least a little bit, (probably staffers from Graham, as he later wrote a book complaining how he wanted this information public.) Goss would later become head of the CIA when Tenet got his reward, I mean retirement.

"Several members were "appalled" at what informed sources described as the "explosive" testimony of Special Agent Steven Butler, who recently retired from the FBI after his final posting in the bureau's San Diego field office."
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/features/saudi_021129.htm

I guess it just isn't any of our business. I wonder what this FBI Agent who coincidently works in counter terrorism and who is the handler for the informant who was giving room and board to the two hijackers being monitored by the CIA, had to say?

FBI HQ in Washington were warned to spread the word about suspicious Arabs at flight training school by an Agent in Arizona, and they refused to spread that word. FBI HQ in Washington refused to allow the MN agents to check out Zacarias Moussaoui. And what else?...The Agents name is Steve Butler....

"Government officials told U.S. News that Butler disclosed that he had been monitoring a flow of Saudi Arabian money that wound up in the hands of two of the 9/11 hijackers. The two men had rented a room from a man Butler had used as a confidential informant, the sources say. According to officials familiar with his account, Butler said that he had alerted his superiors about the money flows but the warning went nowhere. "Butler is claiming ... that people [in the FBI] didn't follow up," says a congressional source. Adds another: "He saw a pattern, a trail, and he told his supervisors, but it ended there."

In a conversation outside his home in the gated Rancho Penasquitos community in San Diego, Butler told U.S. News, "It's very sensitive stuff.'' Wearing a Buffalo Bills cap, Butler said, "I'd love to talk to you guys," but added that he couldn't without permission from the Justice Department.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/features/saudi_021129.htm

I wonder what this money flow he was checking into was about........

When these two hijackers got to America, the person who picked them up and actually moved them into this informants apartment was Omar al-Bayoumi, an agent of Saudi Arabia. He even paid their first months rent and opened up a bank account for them. The money was reimbursed into his own account. The DOJ report even admits it. I wonder where the money comes from?

"Newsweek said, however, the FBI uncovered financial records showing payments to the family of al-Bayoumi from a Washington bank account held in the name of Princess Haifa Al-Faisal, wife of the Saudi ambassador to the United States and daughter of the late King Faisal."[/b]
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,71273,00.html

And the name of that Saudi ambassador she is married to is Prince Bandar. Also known as Bandar Bush because of his close friendship with our fearless leader. Princess Haifa Al-Faisal also happens to be the sister of Saudi Arabias intelligence chief Prince Turki al-Faisal. When Bandar retired as ambassador this al-Faisal guy took his place......
"Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the 22-year Saudi ambassador to the US, the glad-handing "dean of the Washington diplomatic corps," and confidant and partner to successive US presidential administrations, has resigned. He has been replaced by Prince Turki al-Faisal, the former head of Saudi Arabian intelligence (and the current ambassador to Britain).

Turki al-Faisal's own ties to Washington and Langley, and throughout the intelligence world are legendary. Prince Turki has been intimately involved with the CIA, Pakistan's ISI (a virtual branch of the CIA)"
http://onlinejournal.org/Special_Reports/072305Chin/072305chin.html

So, G Bush good friend Saudi Ambassador Bandar was evidently helping to finance the hijackers. And it was G Bush allowing the leader of the "AL Qaeda" in Guantanamo to leave the U.S. immediately after 9/11.....doesn't look very good for him.....so much for just being a puppet. He's involved up to his eyeballs....
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=19511.msg72768#msg72768

The al-Bayoumi guy was working for the Saudi Government. He left the country in July of 2001. But what is never reported anywhere, is evidently he had a replacement that the FBI admits in this recently unclassified document was working for Saudi Intelligence......

"The possibility of being affiliated with the Saudi Arabian Government or the Saudi Arabian Intelligence Service is supported by listing his employment in 1992 as theParkwood Apartment complex in July 2001 could indicate he succeeded Omar AI-Bayoumi and may be undertaking activities on behalf of the Government of Saudi Arabia."
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-10-03-FBI-penttbomb-bayoumi.pdf

So it appears the ones behind the 9/11 attacks are the ones involved in the Soviet-afghan war. Which means..mossad-Isi-CIA-Saudi Intelligence.

So whatever happened with the informant? The DOJ refused to allow him to testify to congress. When they did their own internal review of "intelligence failures" surely they would let themselves talk to him right?
Nope, they didn't even interview the FBI Agent.....from the DOJ IG report, where Agent Butler is referred to as "Stan".....

"After his retirement from the FBI, "Stan" declined repeated requests
for an OIG interview. The OIG does not have authority,to subpoena individuals and cannot compel former Department of Justice employees to submit to an interview."
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/oig/fbi-911/chap5.pdf

And the informant?

The OIG was not able to interview the asset. The Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry had attempted to interview the asset without success. The Committee then submitted interrogatories that the asset declined to answer, asserting his Fifth Amendment privilege. The asset indicated through his attorney that if subpoenaed by the Committee, he would not testify without a grant of immunity.
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/oig/fbi-911/chap5.pdf

Well, let's hope the FBI puts the hammer down on this guy, we need to get to the bottom of this....but turns out they decide to reward him. Reward him with your money. Tax money..........

"In July 2003, the asset was given a $100,000 payment and closed as an asset."
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/oig/fbi-911/chap5.pdf

And in July 2003 was when this investigation was being done. FBI director R Mueller took our tax money to pay off the landlord/informant to buy his silence.


Why isn't R Mueller in prison?












stangrof:
Good afternoon, great article! very useful . bye

jimd3100:
So the FBI had an informant housing the alleged hijackers, Almidhar and Alhazmi, after the CIA who were monitoring them let them into the country on purpose. Now lets meet an informant for the CIA who was handling several other alleged hijackers.

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-8937523_ITM
HAMBURG, Germany _ Nearly two years before the Sept. 11 hijackings, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency began persistent efforts to recruit as an informer a Syrian-born Hamburg businessman with links to al-Qaida and the key hijackers, the Chicago Tribune has learned.

The CIA's attempts to enlist Mamoun Darkazanli were initiated in late 1999, at a time when three of the four Hamburg students who would later pilot the hijacked planes were first learning of the hijacking plot at an al-Qaida training camp in Afghanistan.

Darkazanli, 44, has acknowledged knowing the three pilots, Mohamed Atta, Marwan Al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah, with whom he attended the same radical Hamburg mosque, Al Quds, and shared several common friends in this city's sizable but insular Muslim community......

But the disclosure that the CIA was seeking to turn Darkazanli into a spy during the time the initial hijacking plans were being laid represents the earliest and deepest set of U.S. intelligence footprints outside the hijackers' window.

In December 1999 the CIA representative in Hamburg, posing as an American diplomat attached to the U.S. Consulate, appeared at the headquarters of the Hamburg state domestic intelligence agency, the LFV, that is responsible for tracking terrorists and domestic extremists.

According to a source with firsthand knowledge of the events, the CIA representative told his local counterparts that his agency believed Darkazanli had knowledge of an unspecified terrorist plot and could be "turned" against his al-Qaida comrades.
"He said, `Darkazanli knows a lot,' " the source recalled.

Darkazanli's name had first surfaced the year before in the U.S. investigation of al-Qaida's 1998 bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed 224 people and injured thousands.

Around the same time, Darkazanli's name had popped up in connection with another alleged al-Qaida figure, Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, a 44-year-old Sudanese who is currently in jail in New York awaiting trial in the embassy bombing case.

Salim, who is also accused by federal prosecutors of attempting to help bin Laden obtain enriched uranium for use in a nuclear weapon, was arrested in Munich in September 1998 at the request of the United States.

Investigators learned that Salim, a resident of the United Arab Emirates, held an account at a Hamburg bank. The co-signatory on the account was Mamoun Darkazanli, whose home number had been programmed into Salim's cell phone..

...By the end of 1999 the Darkazanli investigation had produced little of value. Now the Americans were saying that if the Germans couldn't put Darkazanli behind bars, they wanted to turn him into their informer.

The LFV representatives explained to the CIA man, who had been in his post for less than six months, that German law forbids foreign intelligence services, including those deemed to be "friendly," from conducting operations or recruiting informers inside German borders.

Any attempt to recruit Darkazanli on behalf of the CIA would have to be made by operatives of the LFV. In early 2000, around the time the hijack pilots were returning to Hamburg from Afghanistan, an LFV agent casually approached Darkazanli to ask if he was interested in becoming a spy.

Darkazanli replied that he was just a businessman who knew nothing about al-Qaida or terrorism. When the Germans informed the CIA representative that the approach had failed, the man refused to accept their verdict that Darkazanli was not recruitable.
"He was not happy," one source said. "He kept saying, `It must be possible.' "

When the LFV asked for information it could use to counter Darkazanli's claims that he knew nothing about terrorism or al-Qaida, the CIA demurred. What the LFV got instead was a CIA textbook lecture on the recruiting of agents.

.....By the late summer of 2000, Atta, Al-Shehhi and Jarrah had departed Hamburg for Florida, where they were learning to fly single-engine airplanes.



Intensifying its efforts to turn Darkazanli into an informer, a frustrated CIA abandoned the Hamburg LFV and took its case directly to federal German intelligence officials in Berlin.

"Another attempt by the Americans to get somebody to recruit Darkazanli," one source said.

Whether yet another approach was made to Darkazanli by the federal domestic intelligence service, the BFV, could not be determined. Darkazanli did not respond to a registered letter from the Chicago Tribune requesting an interview.

Immediately after Sept. 11, however, American intelligence operatives and FBI agents descended on Hamburg in force. According to a senior German intelligence official, the FBI undertook its own surveillance of Darkazanli.

That surveillance would have been illegal under German law. But with the horror of more than 3,000 deaths at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field dominating the world news, the Germans looked the other way.

"I don't judge it," the senior official said.

Darkazanli's name first surfaced publicly two weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks, when the "Mamoun Darkazanli Import-Export Company" appeared on the Bush administration's initial list of individuals and organizations suspected of involvement in terrorism.

The company is evidently defunct. No incorporation records for the company are on file at the Hamburg courthouse, and sources said it had not done enough business over the years to support Darkazanli and his wife.

When the German federal prosecutor, Kay Nehm, announced an investigation into possible money laundering by Darkazanli and his company on behalf of al-Qaida, the news that Darkazanli was in trouble spread quickly through al-Qaida's network.

In Madrid, Spanish police listening in on Imad Yarkas's cell phone overheard a conversation in which Abu Nabil, the leader of a Syrian extremist organization known as the Fighting Vanguard, warned Yarkas that Darkazanli had caught the "flu" that was going around.

To the reporters who flocked to his apartment in well-kept Hamburg neighborhood, Darkazanli admitted having known Mohamed Atta, Marwan Al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah as fellow worshipers at the downtown Al Quds mosque. But Darkazanli declared that he knew nothing about terrorism or the Sept. 11 plot.

...Two days after the Sept. 11 attacks, Darkazanli had been brought in for questioning by the German federal police, and his apartment thoroughly searched. The police, Darkazanli said, had found nothing. His inclusion on the Bush administration's list of designated terrorist entities was just "a big misunderstanding."

The absence of documents in Darkazanli's flat was partly explained on Oct. 31, 2001, when a young Serbian immigrant with a record of convictions for burglary walked into the fortresslike headquarters of the Hamburg police.

The man presented astonished detectives with a bag full of documents that appeared to have been taken from Darkazanli's files. After accepting the purloined documents, the police arrested the man for burglary.

According to the burglar's story, he had discovered the documents stashed in a small summer house outside Hamburg that he had broken into. He had first gone with the documents to the U.S. Consulate in Hamburg, where it had been suggested that he take them to the police.

But when police asked the burglar to show them the house where he had found the documents, he couldn't locate it.

"We all thought, `CIA,' " one German investigator said.

The CIA representative in Hamburg, who was recalled to Washington in July, declined to comment last week. Since the arrival of his successor, relations with the CIA are described by German intelligence agents as "more collegial."

Darkazanli's lawyer, Andreas Beurskens, said he had advised his client not to speak with the media until the police investigation is complete.

But as the Sept. 11 investigations on both sides of the Atlantic have progressed, more links have emerged between Darkazanli and al-Qaida.

One is the disclosure that Darkazanli received at least $16,000 from Mohamed Kaleb Kalaje Zouaydi, a wealthy Spanish-Syrian arrested in Madrid in April and accused of funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars to al-Qaida and other radical Islamic organizations.

Another is the discovery by German investigators that Darkazanli was previously employed by Abdul-Matin Tatari, an Aleppo-born textile exporter in Hamburg whose own links to the Sept. 11 hijackers are under investigation by German police.

In view of what the expanded investigation was producing, one source said, "the situation for Darkazanli might become more complicated."
(c) 2002, Chicago Tribune.

So if he wasn't "protected" he'd be in prison. And he was arrested....but....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3747968.stm
Germany arrests 'al-Qaeda backer'

A Syrian-born German has been arrested in Hamburg on suspicion of helping to finance Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network, German authorities have said.
Mamoun Darkazanli was detained on an extradition request from Spain.

He is accused of being a key al-Qaeda figure and providing logistical and financial support for the group since 1997 in Spain, Germany and the UK.

If convicted in Spain, he could face 12 years in prison. Mr Darkazanli is expected to contest his extradition.


A court in Hamburg said Mr Darkazanli was arrested after the Madrid authorities submitted a request for his extradition to Spain.

"He is believed have been the constant interlocutor and assistant of Osama Bin Laden in Germany and to have been particularly involved in the transfer of documents and the payment of bills," court spokeswoman Sabine Westphalen said.

She said the Spanish authorities suspect him of involvement in the purchase of a ship for Bin Laden.

After the September 2001 attacks, the US froze the assets of Mr Darkazanli's trading company, saying it was a front for terrorism.

He is also alleged to have had ties to the 11 September hijackers who were based in Hamburg.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/15/terror/printable649681.shtml
Germans Nab Qaeda Terror Suspect

BERLIN, Oct. 15, 2004

(AP) German authorities said Friday they have arrested an al Qaeda suspect wanted by Spain on charges that he helped finance the terror network for years.

Mamoun Darkazanli, 46, a Syrian-German dual national, was taken into custody in Hamburg on Friday on a Spanish warrant and is being held for possible extradition, city judicial spokeswoman Sabine Westphalen told The Associated Press.

Darkazanli was questioned by German police shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States when it emerged that three of the suicide hijackers lived and studied in Hamburg. He was freed for lack of evidence and continued to live in the German port city.


Spanish authorities allege that Darkazanli was "one of the key figures of the al Qaeda terror network" and "the permanent contact person and assistant of Osama bin Laden in Germany," Hamburg authorities said in a statement.

He is accused of giving logistical and financial support to the network in Spain, Germany and Britain since 1997, the statement said.

German authorities arrested him because he was a flight risk, the statement said. It did not elaborate.

Darkazanli did not respond to the charges after his arrest, but said he would contest extradition, the statement said.

Darkazanli is alleged to have been involved in the purchase of a ship for al Qaeda leader bin Laden, handling administrative details and paying bills. He also allegedly traveled to Kosovo in late 2000 on an al Qaeda mission, Hamburg authorities said.

He was among 35 suspects — including bin Laden himself — who were indicted in September 2003 by Baltasar Garzon, a Spanish judge investigating al Qaeda.


If he was a "protected asset" of the CIA, he wont be in jail long...and he wasn't......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4692375.stm

'Al-Qaeda man' wins German appeal
A German-Syrian businessman suspected of funding al-Qaeda has been freed hours after Germany's highest court ruled his arrest warrant was invalid.
Mamoun Darkazanli, 46, who was fighting extradition to Spain, was released from custody in Hamburg, where he had been in detention since last October.

The court ruled the new European arrest warrant violated German law.

The case was a test of the new warrant introduced last year to speed up the handover of terror suspects.

Mr Darkazanli appears in a 1999 wedding video with two of the three 11 September 2001 suicide hijackers who had lived in Hamburg.

Mr Darkazanli has not been charged in Germany, whose constitution prohibits the extradition of its own citizens.

German Justice Minister Brigitte Zypries said the ruling by the federal constitutional court was "a blow for the government in its efforts and fight against terrorism".

Spanish wanted list

After the 2001 attacks, the US froze the assets of Mr Darkazanli's Import-Export Company, saying it was a front for terrorism. He is among 41 suspects, including Osama Bin Laden, indicted by Spanish Judge Baltasar Garzon.

Correspondents say all other suspects in Germany facing extradition under similar warrants will have to be released on bail, and that the German parliament will have to pass a new law if suspects are to be held in jail on EU warrants.
Mr Darkazanli's lawyers argued that handing him over under the European arrest warrant would be against the German constitution.

He has always denied any involvement in terrorism, saying he only knew the 9/11 hijackers by sight.

A spokesman for the European Commission voiced regret that Germany had failed to implement the arrest warrant and urged it to bring its national legislation into line with EU policy.

But Martin Selmayr also insisted that the arrest warrant was still valid.

"From a first reading, it's a judgment that declares null and void the German implementation law, not the European arrest warrant," he said.

In other developments, an al-Qaeda suspect being held at the US detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has been extradited to Spain.

Moroccan-born Lahcen Ikrassrien is accused of being a member of an al-Qaeda cell that allegedly helped plan the 11 September attacks.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/4692375.stm

So is he still around free? Yup....while his buddies, get kidnapped by the CIA and tortured he's left alone...kind of obvious isn't it?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/14/AR2006071401575_pf.html

Germany Closes Investigation of Al-Qaeda Suspect

Associated Press
Saturday, July 15, 2006; A15



BERLIN, July 14 -- German prosecutors said Friday that they had closed their investigation of a German Syrian businessman accused in Spain of being a key al-Qaeda figure.

Federal prosecutors said their investigation had failed to confirm suspicions that Mamoun Darkazanli "founded, along with other people, an organization in Germany with the aim of giving logistical and financial support to the terrorist aims of the international network of violent Islamists."

Darkazanli is among 41 suspects, including Osama bin Laden, indicted by Spanish Judge Baltasar Garzon, who has been investigating al-Qaeda.

Last year, Germany's highest court blocked his extradition to Spain.

Darkazanli appears in a 1999 wedding video with two of the three Sept. 11, 2001, suicide pilots who studied in Hamburg along with lead hijacker Mohamed Atta



knightrd:
This reminds me of Oswald and how he was an informant for the FBI and J Edgar Hoover regarding the anti-Castro rebels.

Biffa22:
This connection to Saudi funding is what the 28 redacted pages of the Senate investigation of 911 (prior to the 911 commission report) reffered to. Former Senator Bob Graham, the chairman of this investigation tried to pass an ammenment at a senate hearing to get the information released to the public. There is a transcript of this here:
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2003_cr/s102803.html

'This report makes a very compelling case, based on the information submitted
by the agencies themselves, that there was a foreign government which
was complicitous in the actions leading up to September 11, at least as
it relates to some of the terrorists who were present in one part of
the United States.
There are two big questions yet to be answered. Why would this
government have provided the level of assistance--financial,
logistical, housing, support service--to some of the terrorists and not
to all of the terrorists? We asked that question. There has been no
response.
My own hypothesis--and I will describe it as that--is that in fact
similar assistance was being provided to all or at least most of the
terrorists. The difference is that we happened, because of a set of
circumstances which are contained in these 28 censored pages, to have
an unusual window on a few of the terrorists. We did not have a similar
window on others. Therefore, it will take more effort to determine if
they were, in fact, receiving that assistance. That effort has, in my
judgment, been grossly insufficiently pursued.'

It appears likely that the leaked information which allowed at least some of these details to emerge, would have come from Senator Bob Graham's office as Jimd says. Of course it was the wife of a close friend of George W. Bush that was funding at least two of the hijackers. It was only because the FBI actually had an informant living with these two that we know this much, as Senator Graham says in the above quote.

Senator Bob Graham wrote a book about this investigation, which I have not yey read, however there is an interview with him at the following link which re-affirms his comments:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2004/11/11_401.html

‘MJ.com: How cooperative were President Bush and his administration with your inquiry?

BG: They started out with a lot of representations of how helpful they would be, in the same way that they did to the citizens’ 9/11 Commission that followed us. But when you actually started to dig close to sensitive information -- the most sensitive being the role of the Saudis -- they began to erect barriers.

MJ.com: Looking at the 9/11 Commission report that was completed after your inquiry, how did the findings of the two compare?

BG: In the main, it was very consistent. The basic intelligence failures that we found, and the recommendations to correct those failures, were largely adopted in the 9/11 report…

In the matter of findings, the biggest disagreement we had with the 9/11 Commission was on the role of Saudi Arabia. We found that there was compelling evidence that the Saudis played an active role in assisting two of the terrorists in Southern California, including being the means of substantial funding for those two terrorists. And this question of whether their support was limited to those two, or may have extended to others of the 17 terrorists, is still an unsolved mystery because the FBI did such an inept job of conducting that investigation. Whether we got it right or the 9/11’s softer evaluation of the role of the Saudis was right, we won’t know until after the administration makes available more information to the American people.’

See also the stickied thread ‘CIA destroyed the interrogation tapes to hide the truth about 911’ by Jimd for more convincing evidence of Saudi government involvement. In this case however it clearly shows a White House cover up and therefore complicity in hiding the perpetrators.

This has not been persued enough by the 911 truth movement, it is the strongest evidence that the official story is a lie, and that the White House has sought to cover up the truth.



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http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=986
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/?p=3212
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=3148
http://www.topix.com/forum/blogs/TF0597PV1RFAVH4HK
http://www.wayoflife.org/files/304f2e6665d4b77427469fb24f0c5063-18.html
http://www.sightlerpublications.com/newage/new_age.htm
http://endingstereotypesforamerica.org/black_inventors.html
http://www.whale.to/b/12_masonic_signs.html
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=79081.40
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From http://theresistancemanifesto.com/forum/index.php?topic=649.0


EXCERPT FROM MY BOOK, THE ILLUMINATI: FACTS & FICTION

Pat Robertson's book, The New World Order

In 1991, Pat Robertson published a book titled The New World Order which is surprisingly accurate in regards to the Illuminati’s plans for a global government and the physical, financial, and spiritual enslavement of the human race. Now, of course, Pat Robertson didn’t sit down at a computer and type the book up himself, he obviously had a ghostwriter do the work for him, which is common among celebrities and politicians who publish books. The most interesting thing about this book is that it mentions the Illuminati by name and gives a few details about their goals and accomplishments.

On page 67, the book reads, “On May 1, 1776 (May Day is still considered to be the key annual holiday for Communists), a Bavarian professor named Adam Weishaupt launched a small secret society called the Order of the Illuminati. Weishaupt’s aims were to establish a New World Order based on the overthrow of civil governments, the church, and private property and the elevation to world leadership of a group of hand-picked “adepts” or “illumined” ones.”

It goes on to say, “In 1782 Weishaupt succeed at the international convention of Freemasonry held in Wilhelmsbad, Germany with his planned infiltration of the Continental Masonic Order and the creation of what he termed Illuminated Freemasonry.”
So whoever did the ghostwriting for this book included some factual yet obscure information about the Illuminati. This is extremely rare, if not unheard of, for a mainstream Christian author, especially one as well known as Pat Robertson. Robertson should have at least read the manuscript before approving it for publication, so he likely saw the entry about such things. This is puzzling because some believe that Pat Robertson is actually involved with the Illuminati himself. Whatever the case, Robertson is one of the most well known Christian evangelicals, and his show The 700 Club has aired on national television since 1966.

There was nothing mentioned about the Skull and Bones society or the Bilderberg group in the book, and the author shows sympathy for then President George H.W. Bush and seems to think that Bush simply wasn’t aware he was aiding in the construction of the New World Order. In reality, and omitted from Robertson’s book, is the fact that the Bush crime family has been active with the Illuminati for generations.

Some of Pat Robertson’s actions expose him as a charlatan who has profited tremendously from selling Christianity, including his bizarre conversations with God, where on his broadcasts God tells him of people watching with various ailments and then he proclaims “God is healing that right now.” Also at the end of each year he announces his “prophecies” for the next twelve months which he claims God tells him will happen. In reality, these “prophecies” are nothing more than the forecasts of political and economic trend analyzers, which can be read in newspapers, and in no way reflect any sort of Divine revelation by Robertson.

Never the less, it is surprising that he is the “author” of a book which contains information about the Illuminati. Perhaps he didn’t even read the manuscript that his ghostwriter prepared for him, or perhaps he allowed it to be included thinking it would increase his market. Whatever the case, it is significant that such information was published with Robertson’s name attached as the author and the information about the historical Illuminati is surprisingly accurate, although The New World Order is extremely limited regarding the key Illuminati organizations and operations.
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Moose Dog: I guess no subject is forbidden with eric phelps. Alittle of what phelps said i agreed with but mostly i was in shock, i'm on truthseekers side on this one.

kmerian: What's hard to understand, when he states that White Supremacy and Black subordination are ORDAINED by God or when he states that blacks CAN'T succeed without white overseers? When I read these words in VA they sickened me and I closed the book right there (the chapter on the civil war), thankful I had only downloaded a pdf version and not wasted my money on this.

kmerian: This post just furthers my opinion that Eric Jon Phelps is so blinded by race hatred that he cannot be trusted to discern the truth. It also concerns me that he accuses the Jesuits of hating our freedoms, but in this post alone he advocates the elimination of the 1st amendment and basic human rights of freedom of religion, right to assemble and right to live where you want. He accuses the KKK and NOI of fostering race hatred and trying to start a race war when that appears to be what HE is doing here.

The Bible states that Jesus knows NEITHER Jew nor Greek.
Jesus says we are to love one another as he loves us. NOT love only those who have the same skin color.

Also his statement that if we do not like his post he will remove us, then it is basically saying that if you disagree with his infallability then he will anathamatize you. Sound familier?


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From http://web.archive.org/web/20020209200312/http://www.williamcooper.com/lionking.htm


The Lion King

THE HOUR OF THE TIME
Tape No. 466: "The Lion King"
Friday, October 21, 1994

Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, make sure you have pen and paper because
I'm going to explain to you something that you weren't aware of, but
that you should be aware of. It will demonstrate the degree of
propaganda and preparation that those who are bringing about the New
World Order are engaged in, in order to prepare the public. And a good
portion of it, ladies and gentlemen, is aimed directly at the children
of the world.

If you took your children to see "The Lion King", you will be especially
interested in tonight's broadcast; for tonight I'm going to give you the
true meaning of that movie. And I'm going to tell you exactly what was
taught to your children. Even though they may not realize it, even
though they may not understand it at their tender age, and even though
most of the parents in the world who have attended the showing of "The
Lion King" had no idea whatsoever what it was that they were watching,
tonight you're going to find out. And when you do find out, I can
assure you most of you will be angry.

Walt Disney was a 33rd Degree Freemason of the Scottish Rite.
Disneyland in Anaheim, California has an address of 1313 Anaheim Blvd.
[sic - Harbor Blvd.]

Unless you understand the symbolic meaning of The Mysteries and the
symbology of Revenge of the Templars, you may not...you may not give too
much importance to that address. But those of us who know, do.

Walt Disney was a very famous Anglophile who was in bed with the FBI and
the intelligence community, and spied for most of his life on his fellow
movie-makers in Hollywood.

We know that in 1958, for one year, there was a colloquium of the
greatest scientific minds in the United States gathered over several
meetings during that year to discuss the exploration and colonization of
the moon and Mars. At every one of those meetings were representatives
of the Walt Disney Studios.

Now, you may not really understand what this is all about yet. But I
can assure you, before tonight is over, you'll understand at least a
part of it.

I'll get this right sooner or later. I'm going to read some verses to
you, ladies and gentlemen, from Genesis, Chapter 4.

I want you to pay close attention, and I want you to understand that I
don't necessarily subscribe to everything that you're going to hear
tonight as my personal beliefs. I'm just going to tell you the message
in "The Lion King". Whether you believe it or not is up to you. But
the people who are bringing about the New World Order believe it, I can
assure you.

The opposing forces engaged in this battle all agree that they will have
a one-world government. The only point of contention is which one of
these opposing forces will sit upon the throne of the world.

One believes that they are protecting, and will hold forth, a king
descended from the House of David and thus related directly by blood to
Jesus Christ. He will hold the titles of the King of Jerusalem and Holy
Roman Emperor. He will be a direct descendant of the Merovingian
bloodline of the kings of France.

One of the others is to believe to be the direct bloodline descendants
of Cain. And they plan to seat their king upon the throne of the world.

And then, of course, there is the Vatican which, I guarantee you, will
be one or the other of the first two when all the dust has settled.

I read from Chapter 4 of Genesis. And, just so you'll understand the
difference in names, this is from the "Restoration of Original Sacred
Name Bible"--not because I think this Bible is any better than any
other, but because, in preparation for this show, this was the Bible
that I grabbed off the shelf, and it's exactly the same as every other
Bible that most of you are familiar with except for one thing: it has
revised the names to reflect the original pronunciation and meaning.

I'm going to start in Chapter 4, Genesis, Verse 8.

[Genesis 4:8-16]

Verse 8: And Cain said unto Abel his brother: Let us go into the
field. And it came to pass when they were in the field that Cain rose
up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

Verse 9: Then said Yahweh unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he
said, I know not: the keeper of my brother am I?

Verse 10: And he said, What hast thou done? With a voice the shed
blood of thy brother is crying out to me from the ground.

Verse 11: Now therefore cursed art thou from the ground which hath
opened her mouth to receive the shed blood of thy brother at thy hand.

Verse 12: Though thou till the ground, it shall not go on to give its
vigor to thee. A wanderer and a fugitive shalt thou be in the earth.

Verse 13: And Cain said unto Yahweh, Greater is my punishment than I
can bear.

Verse 14: Lo, thou hast driven me out this day from off the face of the
ground and from thy face shall I be hid; so shall I become a wonderer
and a fugitive in the earth, and it shall come to pass whosoever findeth
me will slay me.

Verse 15: And Yahweh said to him, Not so. Whosoever slayeth Cain,
sevenfold shall it be avenged. So Yahweh set for Cain a sign that none
finding him should smite him.

Verse 16: So Cain went forth from the presence of Yahweh and dwelt in
the land of Nod, eastward of Eden.

And that's where I stop at this portion and I, in the interest of time,
will explain to you some of the rest of the story.

According to the beliefs of the Secret Societies -- but NOT according
to the Biblical geneologies listed in Genesis, Chapters 5 and 10 -- one
of the direct descendants of Cain was a man named Nimrod. According to
the Bible, Nimrod was a descendant of Ham, the son of Noah, who was of
the line of Seth. But Secret Society beliefs ascribe to Nimrod the
lineage of Cain.

A man named Nimrod. Nimrod, ladies and gentlemen, set up the first
civilization, became the first king in what was known as the Golden
Age. He built the Tower of Babel. He brought together all the
different religions and melded them with politics. He was indeed the
first king.

He had a college in Babylon--for that was the city that he built. This
college was the first Lodge of what is now known as Freemasonry.
Indeed, if you read the books written by prominent Freemasons throughout
the history of Freemasonry, they refer to Nimrod as the first Grand
Master of the First Lodge, and that he loved Freemasons, and had many
hundred Freemasons under his rule.

In Genesis, Chapter 49, Verse 9, listen carefully as I quote:

[Genesis 49:9-12]

Verse 9: A lion's whelp is Judah: from the prey, my son, hast thou
come up. He hath stooped, hath crouched as a lion or as a lioness: who
shall rouse him?

Verse 10: The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor the commander's
staff from between his feet, until that he come in as a Shiloh, and his
be the obedience of the peoples.

Verse 11: Binding to the vine his ass; unto the choice vines his ass's
colt. He hath washed in wine his raiment, and in the blood of grapes
his mantle.

Verse 12: Darker his eyes than wine, whiter his teeth than milk.

And that is where I stop reading there.

In "The Lion King", the first scene is the rising sun in the east. The
rising sun in the east. And the sky is golden, setting the stage for
the Golden Age for the ancient peoples--the ancient city, the ancient
kingdom--which all the secret societies say they will return the world
to very shortly. The Golden Age: the age that, in reality, ladies and
gentlemen, never existed. But it exists in their minds, and it is a way
to manipulate these people to work toward that worldly utopian dream.

And you see, all the animals are coming from everywhere. All the
different animals--denoting the different races--to pay homage at Pride
Rock. All throughout the history of all the religions, there is the
rock that was present at the foundation of the world.

"...upon this rock I build my church;...." [Matthew 16:18]

Under the throne of the Queen of England there is a rock. The
importance of Pride Rock is evident.

Pride Rock is in the east, for indeed, the sun rises behind it. In the
east, sits the Master of the Lodge. Pride Rock is in the shape of a
pyramid. It also represents the Ziggurat, or Tower of Babel.

And a great commotion is heard: something is happening. And all of the
animals from the plains of Africa gather around this rock.

Remember at Mecca: all of the Islamic followers go to Mecca to march in
circles, circumambulate around a rock.

It seems that a baby is born, a new prince, a Lion Cub that will
eventually become the King. This Lion Cub is handed over to what
appears to be a baboon or a monkey, but it is not, I assure you. And
this baboon or this monkey does not represent the black race, but rather
represents the eastern influence in religion.

In this case, as in all cases with these people, it is very akin to
theosophy. And this is borne out later in the movie, as you shall soon
see.

The King, the Lion King, does not take his newly-born Cub and hold it up
for all to see. Instead, he hands the King, the new-born Cub, the new
King--who, of course, will not be King until the old lion is dead--over
to this monkey who represents the priesthood.

And this is significant. What they are saying is that the King really
does not hold the power, for he handed his son to the Priest. The
monkey, of course, is the Priest. The Priest is the one who marches to
the end of the rock and holds the Lion Cub up for all to see.

And remember, the Priest represents the religions of the east.

One of the recognition keys to Freemasons is if someone suspects you're
a Freemason, they might ask you if you are a traveling man: do you do
much traveling? If you don't know the proper response, they'll know
that you're not a Freemason, or a member of the Rose Cross Order, or
many of the others who exist under many different names, but at the top,
all are the same.

But if you are, you would answer: "Yes, as a matter of fact, I have
done some traveling in the east."

And you might be asked at that point, "What is it that you seek? Why
are you traveling in the east?"

And the answer would be: "To find the source of illumination."

So, this is significant. You then realize that the brother of the King
did not attend this ceremony, and he is to be admonished for this. Who
is this brother?

Well, you notice that the Lion King--not the Cub, but the older lion--is
golden, beautiful, magnificent, strong.

His brother is dark, weak, cowardly, and impotent. His brother also has
something very significant in this film: a scar over his left eye. And
indeed, it is the mark of Cain, according to these people who believe
all of these things.

And Cain is jealous of his brother, who is the King, saying that he
should have been the King. He has all the brains. His brother, the
King, has all the brawn and doesn't deserve it. Is that correct? Well,
it doesn't matter. That's what the movie portrays.

If you know anything about the Arthurian legends, the legends of the
Holy Grail, you know that this Dark Lion also represents the Fisher
King, who was wounded in the thigh--or, as some accounts have it,
between the thighs. And you know that he is doomed if he ever takes the
seat.

Oh, yes. This movie is full of symbolism and it tells the old story,
and it tells what's happening in the world today, and what is to come,
and is a message. And it's being taught to your children, and you're
the ones who took them to see it.

Now remember, Pride Rock is in the east, for the sun rose behind it. It
is the seat of the Master of the Lodge.

And we quickly learn that the land in the north is barren and no one
lives there--or at least we are led to believe--for it is an evil
place. And in the Lodge, no one sits in the north, for the north is
said to be the place of darkness. And in the movie, this land in the
north is the place of darkness.

Now, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not reading from a script. I'm telling
you what I know from out of my head.

Scar, the Dark Lion, the lion which represents Cain, sends the new-born
Cub, by deception and trickery, off into the north where he almost loses
his life. For the north, indeed, is fearful and evil. It is the land
wherein dwells the hyenas.

The hyenas are the enemies of the lions, and indeed, of the entire
kingdom. And when you hear these hyenas talking, you immediately
discern that they represent the black and hispanic races. There's no
doubt about it, ladies and gentlemen. And the intent is clear. They
represent the black and hispanic races, and because they dwell in the
north, the place of darkness, the movie conveys to your children that
they are evil, and bad, and dangerous, and ignorant, and stupid--as they
are portrayed in this movie.

The Young Lion barely escapes with his life, but he does escape. And
Scar makes a pact with the hyenas. He tells them that if they will side
with him, he will kill the King, his brother, and he will rule in his
stead. And the hyenas, of course, agree to this, because he promises
them that they will never be hungry again.


Now, one of the things that you must understand is that the Golden Age
is portrayed brilliantly here. The kingdom is full of lush growth,
vegetation, all of the animals are happy and fat. There is no strife in
the kingdom, except the ill will between the Lion King and his brother,
Scar--which is to say that as the world existed then was the best that
has ever been...which is another lie. For this nation, the United
States of America, is--or was, I should say, until recently--the best
that had ever been.

I hope you understand the significance of what you're learning, and the
significance of what was taught to your children as they sat watching
"The Lion King".

You see a romance blossom between the Young Lion and a Young Lioness
that promises fulfillment, promises a fertile kingdom, promises that the
future will be just as good as the present.

Indeed, the birth of the Young Lion in the beginning of the movie is an
expression of the overabundance, the cornucopia, of Babylon, the
fertility of the land and of the kingdom. Plenty for all. And what
happens?

What happens, ladies and gentlemen, is incredible; for it follows
exactly the same old story that has existed throughout the history of
the world, that has been used over and over again to manipulate peoples,
and nations, and kingdoms; and divide and conquer. And to promise
things that cannot be delivered to those who will faithfully follow the
manipulators--the puppet masters--those who pull the strings.

This is all being taught to your children.

The hyenas and Scar set up the situation that will result in the death
of the Lion King and, as Scar has planned it, the death of the Young
Lion also.

Under a pretext--another lie, another deception--Scar takes the Young
Lion out into a gorge and sets him on a rock--again, there is the
rock--sets him upon a rock under a tree. Under a tree.

You see, in those days, all sacrifices were performed upon a rock under
a tree. Sometimes it was an elm; sometimes it was an oak; sometimes it
was something else. And if you know the old story of Isis and Osiris,
then you know that the acacia tree was one of them.

But the Young Lion is placed upon a rock under a tree. And the hyenas
have assembled the herds at the head of the gorge, and of course, there
is no way out.

Scar then goes to tell the Lion King that his son is in danger and tells
him where he's at. And the Lion King runs off to save his son from
whatever danger there is. And then the stampede is started. Up the
gorge comes the huge herd of the plains animals, back into this box
canyon with no way out.

The Lion, at this point, represents the sun which dies at sunset.

Osiris who was killed by his brother Tiphon , also called Set,
Osiris represented the sun.

The Lion also represents Abel. He represents the sacrificed King.

He represents John F. Kennedy who was slain at the point where the sun
was at the most high point in the Temple of the Sun in Dealey Plaza, in
the presence of an obelisk in a reflecting pool in the four corners of
an architectural rendering similar to Stonehenge. Dealey Plaza: shaped
like the truncated pyramid with the capstone missing. The eye, indeed,
is the underpass under the railroad overpass. All of these things have
been portrayed, and represented, and foretold throughout the history of
the world by every different people and every different religion. It is
the old cosmology.

The Lion King is trampled to death, just about. His son escapes. And
his son watches as the Lion King valiantly tries one last time to escape
from the stampede, and as he is hanging by his claws, literally, from
the edge of the gorge, his brother, Scar, knocks him off.

Cain slays Abel.

The sun sets.

Osiris is killed by his brother, Tiphon --the august body of The
Mysteries.

Have you ever heard a senator stand up and talk about "this august
body"? Anyone who makes that statement represents the lineage in this
story, if you believe it.

Remember, I'm telling you the meaning of all this. It does not
necessarily mean that I believe it, or that you should believe it. It's
just what they believe. And if they believe it and they have the power,
it will affect us, I can assure you.

The Lion King falls down and is trampled by the herd.

The Young Lion, thinking that he is the cause of his father's death, and
realizing that there is no way he can explain this to his mother, The
Widow--and he is the Widow's Son--he leaves the kingdom.

In the Bible and in history, it's represented by Seth, who conquers
Babylon with an army and scatters Nimrod's college across the world.
Across the world.

It is also represented by the scattering of the tribes of Israel.

The slain King represents the Lost Word--that which was lost, the
doctrine.

The Widow represents the Church--the Church.

The Young Lion, who leaves the kingdom, represents the scattered
college. He is, in fact, the full body of initiates.

Where does he go, folks?

He goes out into the world: lonely, without companions, without a place
to go, without anyone to belong to. And he wanders until he finds two
other outcasts: one, a little lemur--if you don't know what a lemur is,
look it up in an animal book or an encyclopedia and you'll see a picture
of one--a little lemur that talks exactly--exactly--like a Jewish man
from New York is imagined to talk, and is parodied in many different
ways. And I'm not saying that it's a correct parody, but it is the way
this little lemur talks.

And the other is a warthog, which represents all the down-trodden, ugly
outcasts, the nerds, the people that have no place in the world, the
handicapped. And they form a union. They come together.

Of course, the little Jewish lemur represents the Cabala influence on
The Mysteries.

The Young Lion King represents the full body of initiates. He is the
child Horus.

And the warthog represents all those who do not feel any allegiance or
loyalty to any other body who have joined this union, hoping that, in
the end, they will be vindicated and will have their place in the sun.
In the sun.

And they wander about in the wilderness, seeking the Promised Land--oh,
yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is really something. And of course, they
are persecuted and attacked. And the Young Lion fights off the
attackers and protects the other two.

This, traditionally, has been the Kingdom of England--Great
Britain--which is represented by a lion.

This outcast trio represents British Israelism.

The Queen of England is called by The Mysteries "The Queen of
Babylon"--and it's about time you knew that also.

And they come across the Young Lioness and he falls in love, this Young
Lion, and she keeps telling him: "Remember who you are."

And the monkey shows up and keeps telling him: "Remember who you are."

And you hear it every night on WWCR following this broadcast and on many
other broadcasts where some rabid preacher is exhorting to the white
race: "Remember who you are. You are the real Israelites. The world
belongs to you."

Listen after I sign off tonight. You will hear it, ladies and
gentlemen, I assure you. "Remember who you are."

And this monkey Priest and the Young Lioness keep urging him to go back
and claim his rightful kingship, for he is the True King, they tell
him. He is the descendant of the Dead King. And they tell him that the
Dead King lives on in him. And they tell him to look into a reflecting
pool to see, and there he is looking back at the Young Lion--his father
in himself--for he is the genetic duplication, representing the white
race.

And what's being taught to your children, ladies and gentlemen--and
shame on you for taking them to see these things which you have not
assessed the meaning of prior.

And the King says, "No, I cannot because of my past. I cannot. I'm
afraid. They'll know who I am and they'll know what I did," --talking
about the bad things that existed in Babylon. He does not want to
reveal who he is.

And the monkey Priest, representing the religious philosophy of the
east, smacks him upside the head with his staff. And the Lion King
says, "Ouch! Ouch! Why did you do that?"

He says, "It doesn't matter. It's in your past."

And all of a sudden the Young King understands. And so he says he will
go back.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch--and remember, when this pact was made
between Scar, the Dark Lion, and the hyenas--the Dark Lion representing
Cain, and the hyenas representing the race of Cain--when they made this
pact, and when the Dark Lion ascends to the throne of the kingdom, it
happens on the pinnacle of an obelisk. And the crescent moon surrounds
his head.

And this branch of The Mysteries, ladies and gentlemen, represents
Marxism, Communism, the Soviet Union, all of these things. The French
Grand Orient Lodge of Freemasonry.

And while this Young Lion was out wandering in the wilderness with his
two friends, representing the Jewish people and the warthog--it actually
doesn't represent the Jewish people because the Jewish people don't know
any more than the Protestant people or anyone else, but it does
represent the Jewish branch of The Mysteries which is B'nai B'rith and
the Cabala--don't go out an persecute Jews because they're no different
than any of you, believe me.

Back at the ranch, the kingdom is dying. All of the green trees die,
all of the grass dies.

The Dark Lion--representing Cain, also representing the Fisher King who
is wounded between the thighs--has laid waste to the kingdom.

What was his sin, ladies and gentlemen? His sin was the mixing of the
races, according to these people.

Remember, Walt Disney was a very famous Anglophile. It was many years
before a black person was ever hired by Disneyland, or any of Walt
Disney's organizations, or businesses.

There was no food. The pastures dried up. The trees died. The kingdom
became as the north--barren and wasted. Barren and wasted. And the
Young Lion King sings a song about he cannot wait to become the King,
and set everything straight.

And he goes back and there is a tremendous battle between the Young King
and Scar, and the hyenas, and the young Jewish lemur, and the warthog,
and some other allies that showed up at the last moment. And there you
see the fires raging, burning everywhere.

That is why you saw fire in Waco.

That is why you saw fire with the Move Group in Philadelphia.

That is why you saw fire with the Symbionese Liberation Army when they
were burned.

That's why you saw fire during the Inquisition years as they burned
their enemies at the stake.

What is represented here is evil on all sides involved. The poor,
ignorant sheeple of the world who don't know what this means, or how the
battle is being raged, or what it's all about are always the casualties.

But the Young Lion wins. And when he wins, he marries the Lioness that
he fell in love with. And the trees sprout, and the plain is lush with
grass, and all the animals are happy and have the food.

And you can see they are all separated according to kind. They are no
longer mixed.

And the kingdom blossoms. The sun rises again and the New Age is reborn
as the old Golden Age returned to the earth.

And the warthog and the little lemur, representing the Jews, are happy
finally and have their place in the sun. They're exalted.

And it's teaching the children that there is looming before them the
dawn of a New Age, a return to the Golden Age, where the races will once
again be separated, and the Tower of Babel, represented by Pride Rock,
will be rebuilt in the east.

And all of this under your noses.

You took your children to see this movie, not understanding exactly what
it was that you were watching. But now you know, and now there is no
excuse, and you should explain all this to your children and explain to
them what a terrible thing it is.

I don't care which side of this you're on.

Both sides represent evil. Evil incarnate. They are liars; they are
deceivers; they are manipulators. And they manipulate with old stories
made up many, many years ago to pacify wandering tribes in the desert
and keep their lineage pure; because in those days it was necessary.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is no longer necessary. But it is used as a
tool of manipulation.

No one was around in those ancient days to tell who killed who, or
what's what, or who's descended from where. And I'm not telling you
that your Bible is wrong. I am telling you that all of this has been
used to manipulate and control people throughout the history of the
world.

And that's what you need to understand. And until you understand it and
stop being manipulated by it, you will always be one of the innocent
victims in this battle. For you are not part of the power structure,
and you are of no consequence to any of these people on either side.
They care not whether you live or die, or what your suffering is. They
only care that they mount the throne of power; that they destroy all
existing nations, all existing religions, and create a one-world,
totalitarian, socialist government which they will rule.

To you, it is known as the Beast.

The number of the Beast is 666, which represents all those initiates who
have gone through the three degrees in six acts: the three degrees of
The Mysteries, The Mystery Religion of Babylon. The wars between the
Vatican, between Scarlet, and between the Beast.

And they all agree there will be a one-world government. The only point
of contention is who will sit upon the throne of the world.

If you want to play their game, and buy into their deceptions, and help
them achieve this, you will always be their slave, no matter what side
you are on and no matter who is the victor. And you will make their
shoes, and you will plow their fields, and you will play their football
games for their amusement. And you will keep your mouth shut on certain
subjects, and you will do as you are told or you will just, very simply,
ladies and gentlemen, cease to exist.

The brainwashing of your children has been going on for quite some time,
right under your nose, and you don't even know it. And it's about time
you learned it, and it's about time you do something about it.

And understand this--the brainwashing is strong. It is strong. And it
plays on the emotions. And it feels good. It is such a great deception
that even the elect shall be deceived. Don't fall for it.

Good night, ladies and gentlemen. I hope you can sleep well tonight,
though I doubt it. God bless you, and God save this Republic.


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Saturday, November 14, 2009

Crowley

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Aleister Crowley

Aleister Crowley was an infamous Satanist and Freemason whose writings continue to inspire occultists and Satanists around the world. He considered himself to be a black magician of sorts and his motto was, “Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law.” He began many of his writings and letters with this phrase, which meant do whatever you want, as if there are no consequences. Aleister died at the age of 72 on December 1, 1947.
The Beatles album Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band in 1967 featured Crowley’s picture on the cover, and Ozzy Osborne “the Prince of Darkness” made reference to Mr. Crowley in the song of the same name. Many unfamiliar with the activities and writings of Crowley have no idea what the song is about. Some lyrics are as follows:

Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head
Mr. Crowley, did you talk with the dead
Your life style to me seemed so tragic
With the thrill of it all
You fooled all the people with magic
You waited on Satan’s call

Mr. Charming, did you think you were pure
Mr. Alarming, in nocturnal rapport
Uncovering things that were sacred manifest on this Earth
Conceived in the eye of a secret
And they scattered the afterbirth

Crowley was a member of various occult organizations, including Freemasonry in which he was a 33rd degree Sovereign Grand Inspector General of the Scottish Rite, as he bragged in his autobiography.# (See Freemasonry p. 225) Crowley was also deeply involved with the Order of the Golden Dawn, and the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) (Order of the Temple of the East, or the Order of Oriental Templars).

While climbing up the occult hierarchy, Crowley was given the title “the wickedest man alive” by the media and called himself “the beast.” It has been documented that Crowley practiced drug induced rituals that included perverted sex acts, homosexuality, bestiality, and eating human waste.
The most shocking facts about Crowley are his beliefs outlined in his book, Magick: In Theory and Practice, where he gives instructions on animal and human sacrifices, writing:

“But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best…The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony–thus, by sacrificing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin–the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way.”

“For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim.”
(Aleister Crowley – Magick: In Theory and Practice p.95-96)

These kinds of writings and instructions most likely inspired Satanists like Michael Aquino and others who continue to carry on the darkest principles found in the occult.

Book of The Law

Another one of Crowley’s famous (or infamous) books is The Book of the Law which was dictated to him by a demon who temporarily possessed his wife when they were visiting Egypt. This book is where the saying ‘Do what thou wilt’ comes from. Various quotes from this satanic piece of filth follow.

“Every man and every woman is a star.” p. 19

“Let my servants be few & secret : they shall rule the many & the known.” p. 19

“Now, therefore, I am known to ye by my name Nuit, and to him by a secret name which I will give him when at last he knoweth me.” p. 20

“...the ordeals I write not : the rituals shall be half known and half concealed.” p. 22

“Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.” p. 23

“So with thy all; thou hast no right but to do thy will. Do that, and no other shall say nay.” p. 23

“I give unimaginable joys on Earth.” p.26

“But to love me is better than all things: if under the nigh-stars in the desert thou presently burnest mine incense before me, invoking me with a pure heart, and the Serpent flame therein, thou shalt come a little to lie in my bosom. For one kiss wilt thou then be willing to give all…ye shall wear rich jewels; ye shall exceed the nations of the Earth in splendor & pride.” p. 27

“Compassion is the vice of kings : stamp down the wretched & the weak : this is the law of the strong : this is our law and the joy of the world…Now let it be understood: If the body of the King dissolve, he shall remain in pure ecstasy for ever.” p. 31

“I am the Snake that giveth Knowledge & Delight and bring glory, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs whereof I will tell my prophet, & be drunk thereof! They shall not harm ye at all…Be strong, o man! Lust, enjoy all things of sense and rapture: fear not that any God shall deny thee for this. 23. I am alone: there is no God where I am.” p. 31

“Behold! These be grave mysteries…26. I am the secret Serpent coiled about to spring : in my coiling there is joy. If I lift up my head, I and my Nuit are one. If I droop down mine head, and shoot forth venom, then is rapture of the Earth, and I and the Earth are one.” p. 32

“Ah! Thy death shall be lovely : whoso seeth it shall be glad…Ah! Ah! Death! Death! Thou shalt long for death.” p. 37-38

“Now let it be first understood that I am a god of War and Vengeance.” p. 39

“Worship me with fire & blood; worship me with swords & with spears. Let the woman be girt with a sword before me: let blood flow to my name. Trample down the Heathen; be upon them, o warrior, I will give you of their flesh to eat! Sacrifice cattle, little and big : after a child.” p. 40
“Mercy let be off : damn them who pity! Kill and torture ; spare not ; be upon them ! The Best blood is of the moon, monthly: then the fresh blood of a child, or dropping from the host of heaven : then of enemies ; then of the priest or of the worshipers : last of some beast, no matter what.” p. 41

“But your holy place shall be untouched throughout the centuries: though with fire and sword it be burnt down & shattered, yet an invisible house there standeth, and shall stand until the fall of the Great Equinox; when Hrumachis shall arise and the double-wanded one assume my throne and place. Another prophet shall arise, and bring fresh fever from the skies; another woman shall awake the lust & worship of the Snake; another soul of God and beast shall mingle in the globed priest; another sacrifice shall stain the tomb; another king shall reign; and blessing no longer be poured To the Hawk-headed mystical Lord!” p. 42-43

“I am in a secret fourfold word, the blasphemy against all gods of men. Curse them! Curse them! Curse them! With my Hawk’s head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross.” p. 47

The Scientology Connection

L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, said some very interesting things about Aleister Crowley. It is rumored that L. Ron Hubbard had participated in bizarre sex rituals with Crowley and others during their exploration into occult magick, and in an audio recording widely available on the Internet, Hubbard had the following to say about the Satanist.

“The magical cults of the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th centuries in the Middle East were fascinating. The only modern work that has anything to do with them is a trifle wild in spots, but is a fascinating work in itself, and that's the work of Aleister Crowley – the late Aleister Crowley – my very good friend. He signs himself ‘the Beast,’ mark of the Beast 666.”

Hubbard was a science fiction writer in the 1940s who was also interested in the occult and later started his own “religion” by mixing occult philosophy, science-fiction stories, and self-help strategies.

Hollywood actor, Jason Beghe, quit Scientology and made headlines in 2008 explaining, “A Scientologist who’s ‘clear’ believes he’s no longer a Homosapien. He’s Homo-novis, a new race. They believe they are the only hope for this section of the galaxy, starting with planet Earth.”#

Beghe also admitted that he gave Scientology almost one million dollars in donations over his twelve years of membership.#
It’s important to note that high level occultists and Luciferians believe that they too evolve into a new species, and into gods. Any educated person can see the occult inspiration that L. Ron Hubbard incorporated into Scien-tology.


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The Luciferian Doctrine

It is clear from the writings of prominent Freemasons and Illuminati authors that the religion and philosophy of the elite members is that of Lucifierianism or Satanism. Whether this is a literal belief or a metaphoric or allegorical belief is of little difference. If it were literal, it would then be metaphoric as well. If it were metaphoric, then it also expands into a literal fashion as the actions of the participants manifest themselves.

To sum up Luciferianism or Satanism one must understand the difference between atheistic Satanism, and theistic Satanism. Atheistic Satanism was popularized in the late 1960s by Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan and the author of The Satanic Bible. While misleading and confusing, he and his followers profess that they are atheists and don’t believe in a literal Devil, or even God. They don’t believe in an afterlife or a Heaven or Hell, either. These individuals choose to call themselves Satanists and use the symbol of Satan for its rebellious and nonconformist connotations. This topic is expanded in greater detail in the section of this book which covers The Satanic Bible.

Theistic Satanism, on the other hand, is the belief in a God and a Devil, and supernatural beings. These Satanists take the opposite side of the Christian view concerning the Garden of Eden and the Fall of Man. In Judaism and Christianity, the book of Genesis describes how God created Adam and Eve and how they lived in the Garden of Eden. God was said to have told them that they were not to eat the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, for if they did, they would surely die.

As the story goes, Satan appeared to Eve in the form of a snake and tempted her to eat the fruit. Genesis 3:1-7 reads, “The woman said to the serpent, “we may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

“You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

“When the woman saw that fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sowed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.”

Theistic Satanists and Luciferians believe that Satan came to the Garden of Eden to save Adam and Eve and mankind from ignorance, and that God didn’t want them to have the knowledge because then they wouldn’t be his slaves. In this view, God is seen as the oppressor and the evil one, and Satan is seen as the hero and savior. This is why in such books as The Secret Doctrine, author Helena Blavatsky calls Satan the holy spirit.

She wrote, “Thus “SATAN,” once he ceases to be viewed in the superstitious, dogmatic, unphilosophical spirit of the Churches, grows into the grandiose image of one who made of terrestrial a divine MAN; who gave him, throughout the long cycle of Maha-kalpa the law of the Spirit of Life, and made him free from the Sin of Ignorance, hence of death.”(#1)

“The true meaning is far more philosophical, and the legend of the first “Fall” (of the angels) assumes a scientific colouring when correctly understood.”(#2)

This is one of the reasons the Illuminati has a hierarchical structure, and only dispenses knowledge little by little as members climb the ranks. Knowledge is power, and they have taken the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and have hid it away, using it as a carrot to entice lower level initiates to do the organization’s bidding so they may be rewarded with not only their financial and social support, but with the forbidden occult knowledge of Man’s past and of the nature of reality itself. Such forbidden knowledge, they believe, holds the potential for a man to become god-like.

The term Lucifer, which is synonymous with Satan, is Latin for “light bearer,” which is why Luciferians and Satanists believe that the Devil is the source of knowledge and wisdom, thus he is good. While in Christianity, Jesus is said to be the light of the world, the Illuminati designate this attribute to Lucifer or Satan. The name Satan actually means “adversary” or accuser, and is hence the adversary of God. The title of Lucifer is given to Satan because he brings the forbidden wisdom that God did not want humanity to have.

In Christianity, as well as Luciferianism and other religions, the term “light” represents love, knowledge, and wisdom. One main difference between most religions and Luciferianism is that Christianity and most religions openly teach their message and welcome everyone to learn it and understand it, where occultism keeps its message hidden from most people and doesn’t share its knowledge with others. The word occult means “hidden.” The main difference between Luciferianism and Christianity is that traditional Christianity teaches that salvation comes only by believing in Jesus, where occultists believe that one is saved by learning the secret knowledge. While this idea of salvation by knolwege is not overtly evil and diabolical, it is what the Illuminati has done with this concept that proves they are a cabal of liars, hypocrites, and tryants. The term Illuminati is Latin for Illuminated ones, and is also a reference to light, Lucifer, and brilliance.


#1 Blavatsky, Helena – The Secret Doctrine V I p. 198
#2 Blavatsky, Helena – The Secret Doctrine V I p. 418

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Tuesday, August 25, 2009

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Kenneth Copeland
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There is a strong Masonic connection to the Word-Faith Movement. Madam Blavatsky was made a Freemason in her day because of her close friendship to Albert Pike and her leadership in occult Theosophy, a parallel system to Masonry, which was one of the roots of the Word-Faith Movement.

Then there is Kenneth Hagin who is suspected of being a Freemason. Hagin's god is the phallic god, and he believes that Jesus Christ is the female member of the godhead. This is the ancient and well known doctrine of the godhead as presented by Supreme Pontiff Albert Pike, Southern District of Freemason, 33rd Degree, and every Freemason and every Lodge holds Pike's Morals and Dogma as the master text of Masonic Doctrine. If Hagin is a Freemason and has made the Royal Arch Degree or higher, he has taken an oath based on Jehovah God being the male organ and Jesus being the female vagina.

Then there is Kenneth Copeland, one of todays leading spokesmen of the Word-Faith movement. His printed material, broadcast media, crusades and international outreach centers, reach and influence millions.

Copeland started his ministry under 33rd Degree Freemason Oral Roberts as a pilot, but he confesses that it was Kenneth Hagin's tapes and books that revolutionized his ministry. Copeland has been quoted as saying that he 'learned nothing' during six months at Oral Roberts University but was so excited by Hagin's teachings that...[he] spent the next month in his garage listening to them." It is a trademark of most proud Masons to leave key symbols veiled into pictures and also to use various keywords in speeches or secret handshakes. Proof of this can be found in Masonrys most common definition of itself as being Freemasonry is a peculiar system of Morality, veiled in Allegory, and illustrated by Symbols. This is taken directly from the second degree initiation.

ALLEGORY: fictional literary narrative or artistic expression that conveys a symbolic meaning parallel to but distinct from, and more important than, the literal meaning. Allegory has also been defined as an extended metaphor. The symbolic meaning is usually expressed through personifications and other symbols. In art, an allegorical painting or sculpture is one that has a symbolic meaning underlying the surface image.

On the cover for Copeland's audiotape series entitled 'How To Build Your Firm Foundation.' Copeland has placed the chief Masonic symbols of the square and compass, to most people the true meaning is veiled in an allegorical style.


In Copeland's 'Shout' magazine for kids, we find more Masonic symbols. Around Kenneth's neck is an eagle above an inverted triangle. The female has an inverted 5 pointed star placed on her shirt. This symbol represents the 'Order of the Eastern Star' which is a Masonic order for women! Is this a coincidence?

Copeland has placed the main symbols of Masonry and the Eastern Star on his covers. When 33rd Degree Freemason Robert Schuller wanted to express his secret membership in the Lodge he used the 33rd Degree symbol of a double headed eagle and sent it out to many people without them realizing what he was declaring to his Masonic brothers worldwide. 33rd Degree Freemason Oral Roberts used the inverted triangle in his University logo which has a hidden Masonic design to it. Another odd element is that the Freemasons veiled the symbols of the square, compass, inverted star and triangle into the street layout of Washington D.C. These are the 3 symbols that Copeland has placed on the 2 mentioned covers.

Kenneth Copeland has stated that Jehovah means Half Male/ Half Female and that God is as much female as he is male. He amplifies this strange teaching by also saying that Adam was originally half male and half female. According to the book "The Secret Teachings Of Freemasonry" by Gordon Mohr this is exactly what the Masonic Lodge teaches:- (on pages 107-108)

"Adam was made in the image of God. He was as much female as he was male. He was exactly like God. Then God separated him and removed the female part. Woman means 'man with the womb.' Eve had as much authority as Adam did as long as they stayed together." (Sensitivity of Heart KCP Publications, 1984, 23)

In his first initiation stages he (the Freemason) learns: 1 - That the rite of initation for Apprentice Masons represents in dramatic fashion the origin or birth of Nature's god - the Great All. It signifies the non-existence of a supernatural person God, such as that of Christianity. It signifies that the two principles of "matter" and "form", "male" and "female," are always eternally generating," (reproducing). It looks on God as a hermaphrodite, and creation as the beginning of the "generation process." Taken from: Speculative Masonry, by Brother J. Yorke, Grand Master of the Ancient Rite pages 3 & 54

2 - The initation rite into the Second Degree, represents the moral condition of nature's god, always in labor, always reproducing. Again it looks on God as hermaphroditic, and states that his name JEHOVAH, means "generation." Meaning to say, HE-SHE, the two sexes in one. From Speculative Masonry page 14 & Mackey's Lexion pages 126-129

The dual principle of "male" and "female" is represented by the "square and compass." The "compass" represents OSIRIS, the male god of the Egyptians, while the "square" is the symbol representing ISIS, the female goddess of Egypt - both are sexual symbols. Taken from: Ragon's Cours. Philosophique page 102 Copeland has placed these symbols on one of his tape covers.

Copeland also teaches similar things that the early Mormons leaders who were also Freemasons taught. While the Mormons teach that God lives on a planet near the star Kolob, Copeland says that his hermaphroditic god also lives on a Mother Planet:-
"Heaven has a north and a south and an east and a west. Consequently, it must be a planet." Spirit, Soul and Body I 1985 audiotape #01-0601, side 1

"You don't think earth was first, do you? Huh? Well, you don't think that God made man in His image, and then made earth in some other image? There is not anything under this whole sun that's new. Are you hearing what I'm saying? This is all a copy. It's a copy of home. It's a copy of the Mother Planet. Where God lives, He made a little one just like His and put us on it." Following the Faith of Abraham I, 1989 audiotape #01-3001, side 1

Exactly how Copeland could "squeeze" God on any planet is difficult to fathom, especially since Solomon pointed out that heaven itself cannot contain God (1 Kings 8:27).

Compare what Freemason-Mormon Brigham Young stated "Adam is our father and our God" with Copeland's quote that Adam was God manifest in the flesh, just the same as Jesus (click on the link in the quote to hear the wav file):-

"God's reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself, and in the Garden of Eden He did just that. He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even. ...Adam is as much like God as you could get, just the same as Jesus when He came into the earth, He said you've seen me you've seen the Father, he wasn't a lot like God, He's God manifested in the flesh! And I want you to know something, Adam, in the Garden of Eden, was God manifested in the flesh." Following the Faith of Abraham I, side 1

God spoke Adam into existence in authority with words. These words struck Adam's body in the face. His body and God were exactly the same size." Holy Bible, Kenneth Copeland Reference Edition 1991, 45, emphasis in original

That Adam looks the same as Jesus and God:

"The image being that he [Adam] was the copy, looked just like [God]. If you stood Adam upside God, they look exactly alike. If you stood Jesus and Adam side by side, they would look and sound exactly alike...Now a lot of people have missed that...but that's exactly true...The image is that they looked just alike. But the likeness, is that they act alike, and they are alike...Now here's Adam in the image of God, and in the likeness of God. All of God's attributes, all of God's authority, all of God's faith, all of God's ability, was invested in that man" Authority of the Believer IV 1987, audiotape #01-0304, side 1

The Hebrew word for "likeness" (demuth) simply means similarity or resemblance, not identity. The term itself actually "defines and limits" the word "image" (Hebrew: tselem) in order "to avoid the implication that man is a precise copy of God, albeit miniature" (R. Laird Harris, Gleason L. Archer, Jr., and Bruce K. Waltke, eds., Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, 2 vols. Chicago: Moody Press, 1981, 1:192.)

Humans are created in God's image in the sense that they share, in a finite and imperfect way, God's communicable attributes (e.g, rationality and morality). These attributes, in turn, give individuals the capacity to enjoy fellowship with God, develop personal relationships with one another, and take care of God's creation as He has commanded. (Millard J. Erickson, Christian Theology, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1988, 510; cf. 514) God's incommunicable attributes (e.g., omnipotence, omniscience, self-sufficiency), however, remain solely His.

Now compare Freemason-Mormon founder Joseph Smith's teaching that if you were to see God today "you would see him like a man in form - like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man." with how Copeland describes his god:-

[God is] "a being that is very uncanny the way he's very much like you and me. A being that stands somewhere around 6'2", 6'3", that weighs somewhere in the neighbourhood of a couple of hundred pounds or a little better, has a span of 9 inches across." Spirit, Soul and Body I audiotape Side 1 1985

Copeland's statement is based on Isaiah 40:12 ("Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, marked off the heavens with a [nine inch] span,..." [AV]). Yet following the same line of interpretation, one would also have to conclude that God literally held a basket full of dust and weighed mountains on a gigantic set of scales (v. 12b) - which is an absurd proposition ruled out by the context of the passage. Isaiah 40 makes extensive use of figurative language to underscore the vast difference between the Creator and His creation.

The Bible never intended to convey the notion that God has physical features like His human creation. Jesus declared that, "God is spirit" (John 4:24), not a spirit-being with a body (cf. Deut. 4:12). God is not like man. (Numbers 23:19). The Creator is, after all, "God, and not man" (Hos. 11:9).

The idea of God possessing a body, physical or spirit, implies the unbiblical view that the Trinity is actually composed of three separate beings. Moreover, a God who has a body with definite, measurable dimensions cannot truly be omnipresent, unlike the God of Scripture who is present everywhere in all His fullness (Jer. 23:23-24).

It is true that in His human nature Christ has a body and is localized in space and time. But in His divine nature He remains nonphysical and omnipresent, sharing this immutable nature with the Father and Holy Spirit.

Kenneth Copeland is one of the best known proponents of the Charismatic/Word-Faith Movement's "little gods" teaching, which denies the uniqueness of Christ. The Bible tells us that there is only one God, (Isaiah 43:10; Isaiah 44:6; Isaiah 45:18; Mark 12:29; 1 Cor. 8:4), yet, Copeland says Jesus told him:

"Don't be disturbed when people accuse you of thinking you are God ... They crucified Me for claiming I was God. I didn't claim that I was God; I just claimed that I walked with Him and that He was in Me. Hallelujah! That's what you're doing ..." Take Time to Pray," Believer's Voice of Victory , 2/87, p. 9

Copeland places himself on the same level as Jesus Christ, and chants the words "I AM" which is a Masonic initiation term.

"He am healin', He am deliverance, He am financial prosperity, mental prosperity, physical prosperity, family prosperity. It's terrible grammar, but you understand what I'm sayin'. I'm sayin' it to effect my mind...And I say this with all respect so that it don't upset you too bad, but I say it anyway. When I read in the Bible where He says I AM, I just smile and say, 'Yes, I AM too.'" Believers Voice of Victory broadcast July 9 1987

During the ceremonies of the Masonic ritual for the Royah Arch degree, the candidate is asked, "Brother Inspector, what are you?" and he replies, "I AM THAT I AM."
When Jesus told the jews before Abraham was "I AM" he was claming to be the God of Moses who went by that name. This is why they tried to kill him immediately. Kenneth is claiming to be a God.

33rd Degree Freemason Robert Schuller also endorses his followers to chant "I AM" "The most effective mantras employ the "M" sound. You can get the feel of it by repeating the words, "I am, I am," many times over.... Transendental Meditation or TM... is not a religion nor is it necessarily anti-Christian." Peace of Mind Through Possibility Thinking, pp. 131-32

Benny Hinn who is possibly another Freemason, also tells Christians to chant "I AM." "Don't tell me you have Jesus. You are everything He was and everything He is and ever shall be.....Don't say, 'I have.' Say , 'I AM, I AM, I AM, I AM, I AM.' Our Position in Christ #2-The Word Made Flesh audiotape Side 2 1991

Another of Copeland's heritical teachings is his belief that God was gang raped and sodomised by homosexual Roman soldiers. If so then God's blood would be inpure and unable to redeem.

"Let me tell you something folks. Anybody in here that's ever been sexually abused, listen to me right now. Listen to me very carefully. The bible's very careful about the way it says these things. But down there in that dungeon, Romans, ungodly men, ungodly men, put him (Jesus) to every kind of abuse that you can think of. There is no sin that Jesus didn't bare. There is no thing, there is no such thing as a sexual abuse on somebody that Jesus doesn't know firsthand what it's all about. He's been where you are, I don't care what you've been through, Jesus has been through it. And everything's done to him that we we couldn't even speak of." The Resurrection Truth


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