http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_masonsknightstemplar03.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/BeWiseAsSerpents01.pdf
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/2facesfreemasonry10.pdf
http://www.benabraham.com/html/lucifer_rising.html
http://www.cuttingedge.org/free001a.htm
Saturday, April 24, 2010
Monday, April 19, 2010
Sunday, April 18, 2010
Ron Paul
Note by Me: I don't agree with following LaRouche as he has cultic tendencies, is allied with the Grand Orient Lodge of Freemasonry, and has an authoritarian like allegeance.
By Timothy
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From http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Ron-Paul-Deception-by-Dick-Thomson-091021-872.html
The Ron Paul Deception?
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The pundits and activists promoting an end to the Federal Reserve, an investigation of 9/11 and other conspiratorially-minded causes are nearly unanimous in their praise for Congressman Ron Paul. It's not hard to see why. This humble country doctor was the lone Republican presidential candidate advocating an end to preemptive war, fiscal discipline and other reasonable-sounding propositions that stood in stark contrast to the tirades of cynical warmongers like Rudy Giuliani.
Paul's campaign was helped in no small part by Alex Jones, the Austin, TX radio host who has become the leading voice of the "truth movement" and possibly all alternative media, with millions of daily listeners and several of the web's most-viewed viral videos to his credit. Paul's "Campaign for Liberty" was the driving force behind the "tea party" movement ��" which started as a protest of the $24 trillion bank bailout and the Federal Reserve system, but was quickly ensnared by forces aligned with Newt Gingrich and turned into a protest against Obama's stimulus package and healthcare reform proposals.
Is the Tea Party bait & switch simply a failure of mobilization by the independent right, or was it a preview of things to come? I would make the argument that, whether he knows it or not, Ron Paul was put on the national stage to preempt a constructive political revolution in favor of national suicide in the name of "liberty."
Below, I'll outline Ron Paul's signature issues, what I consider his "deception," and the truth. I think other Alex Jones regulars like Webster Tarpley or Paul Craig Roberts could make these arguments more convincingly. Unfortunately, their continued appearances on "patriot radio" and video are contingent upon not criticizing this most sacred of cows.
End the Fed / Monetary Policy
The Deception:
Paul's main criticism of our monetary system is inflation. In his view (that of the "Austrian" economists), a fiat (legal) currency allows the federal government to print money ad infinitum to pay for wars and social programs, the result being an increase in the supply of dollars and decrease in the value of each dollar. His solution to the problem of inflation is to return to the pre-Bretton Woods gold standard, where the supply and value of money is fixed to the international gold market.
The Truth:
The problem is this: the US Treasury borrows its own money, with compounding interest, from private banks. Interest-on-debt owed to the Federal Reserve accounts for over half of the national debt. There certainly is an inflationary effect when the national government must borrow more money to pay its interest ��" the equivalent of taking out home equity loans to pay your mortgage.
The US Constitution, so often cited by libertarians, specifically demands a fiat currency. Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the power to: borrow money on the credit of the United States; regulate commerce; coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standards of weights and measures. The only reference to gold is I:10, which prohibits the individual states from coining money, creating credit, or paying their debts with anything but gold or silver ��" which is similar to the Bretton Woods concept of gold settlement (not gold money) to keep honest trade balances between nations.
Most committed libertarians are united in their hatred of this constitutional credit system, pioneered by Hamilton and advanced by Lincoln and FDR, each of whom are regularly accused of being crypto-Jews, agents of the Rothschilds and masonic satanists.
They are throwing mud at the solution and intent of the founders, which is a national credit system, based on production and protected by Congress from financial speculation and foreign intervention.
The War on Terror
The Deception:
It's odd that Paul, who has disavowed "9/11 truthers" and embraces the "blowback" theory of 9/11 (Muslims from caves attacked us because we're "over there"), is the hero of the 9/11 truth movement. This again is mostly due to his association with Alex Jones, who has done a lot of good work exposing the 9/11 attacks as a fraud.
Paul's major criticism of American foreign policy is that we are acting as "the policemen of the world," not that we are murdering millions of innocent people to enrich corporations. Getting out from Iraq and Afghanistan is the right thing to do, but why does Paul refuse to acknowledge the real reasons for these wars of aggression (i.e. oil, drugs, control, war profits) and insist that we're simply wasting tax dollars meddling in other peoples' civil conflicts?
The Truth:
Is Ron Paul naive, intimidated by the war lobby, or is this a conscious deception? "Terrorism" is simply proxy war, waged by shadow governments against nations. Should we just step aside and let financiers, through their intelligence agencies and corporate militias, posing as "al Qaeda," balkanize the entire globe? Or should we call a spade a spade? Since no current national legislator in America has gone public for 9/11 Truth, it must be a very dangerous thing to do. I presume Paul's goal is to use the safest excuse to take an anti-war position, but who can say?
Limited Government, the Free Market and Moral Relativism
The Deception:
Ron Paul goes beyond the popular calls to limit excessive taxation and pro-corporate bureaucracy, and takes the market-fundamentalist position to eliminate the Departments of Education and Energy, social programs like Medicare, Social Security and food stamps, and any other government distortion of "the market" (gradually, of course). He has succeeded in rebranding what in other countries is called IMF shock therapy or fascist austerity as "liberty". Beyond this, he is notably less concerned about the effects of legalizing heroin than the effects of legalizing financial derivatives.
The Truth:
The idea that an unregulated market for goods, services and financial products leads to prosperity, equal opportunity and fairness spits in the face of history. Certainly private interests have learned to use the power of the state to protect their investments, but in the absence of an effective state, we see not freedom, but open oligarchy. If the present effects of deregulation aren't evidence enough, the results of the IMF's free market experiments, as detailed in books like Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine, should seal the deal.
The fundamental problem with monetarism (the notion that money = value, which is pervasive across the political spectrum) is that it accepts the notion that economics is a science. But the pseudo-scientific theory of the market relies on impossible factors ��"such as consumers with perfect information, honest sellers, no emotional or moral considerations in transactions, etc. The Austrians and Chicago economists wish away any counterexample to their models by calling it an "externality".
In truth, economics is little more than an encoded system of morality. Other than accountancy and statistics, economic policy is about setting priorities, goals and limits for the individuals within the economy. When we leave these priorities entirely to individuals in "the market", economic activity is pulled toward things like credit default swaps, drugs, pornography and gambling. There are people in this world who will cheat, steal and murder for money, and many of them wear 3-piece suits. Why didn't the Clinton-era deregulations lead to mass transit, cheap energy and full employment? Because it's easier to get rich by stealing than it is by creating.
The libertarian definition of freedom doesn't free us from oppression ��"it frees our oppressors. By holding our government to technical rather than moral standards ��"whether in healthcare or financial regulation ��" we remove the very purpose of the nation-state, encoded so beautifully in the US Constitution and writings of figures like Hamilton and Lincoln.
Of course, you can have too much of a good thing ��"communism being one example. As Ludwig on Mises was fond of saying, "government is force." Our process of self-government should be the evolving struggle to define the general welfare, and the best means of achieving it. If history shows anything, it's that prosperity is possible only in a protective system. The purpose of a national government to defend our rights against the organized powers of money, the pull-down nature of international trade, and to use public credit and commonwealth to help foster the conditions for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Obama Has Been Bad, But There's Something Worse
(Credit to Webster Tarpley for the paraphrase). Obama thus far has made some feeble attempts at a Keynesian model of government ��"corporate and personal welfare spending without any attempt to increase production or the value of labor. Yes, he's selling us down the river ��" but at least he's still trying to give us a log to cling to. The next phase, if the bankers have their way, is crushing austerity at the hands of "the market". Hopelessness, despair and stagnation, without the dwindling safety net of the New Deal. Someone like Mitt Romney or Bobby Jindall could very well emulate the Reaganesque rhetoric of Ron Paul to deliver us into the jaws of corporate retirement, insurance, charter schools, water, libraries, police, and anything else of value that will finalize the looting of America's earned national income.
As 2008 was the year for anyone other than Bush, 2012 may well be the year for anyone other than Obama ��"and given the mobilization of the independent right, anyone resembling Ron Paul. When the next crisis hits, America will be looking for answers, and Paul may have the nation's most functional political coalition. Most on the right, probably including Ron Paul, are well-intentioned, concerned citizens that honestly but wrongly believe "big government" is the source of their problems. In limited instances they are right, but the big picture is a broad, anti-historical, anti-Constitutional theology that leaves us no organized means to fight organized private power. The solutions are ready to be adopted ��" look to people like Mr. Tarpley or his former employer Lyndon LaRouche for a complete program which could be adopted today by the current president. We need to work together to rescue our institutions of government, earned by the blood of our forefathers, from their current occupants. We do not need to fight against the institutions themselves, which are the proverbial babies floating in a sea of fetid bathwater.
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Husband, father of two, small business owner, gardener
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http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ron-Paul-Still-as-Scary-as-by-earl-ofari-hutchin-100221-425.html
By Timothy
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From http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Ron-Paul-Deception-by-Dick-Thomson-091021-872.html
The Ron Paul Deception?
Buzz up!on Yahoo!
SAVE AS FAVORITEVIEW FAVORITESBy Dick Thomson (about the author) Page 1 of 2 page(s)
opednews.com Permalink
For OpEdNews: Dick Thomson - Writer
The pundits and activists promoting an end to the Federal Reserve, an investigation of 9/11 and other conspiratorially-minded causes are nearly unanimous in their praise for Congressman Ron Paul. It's not hard to see why. This humble country doctor was the lone Republican presidential candidate advocating an end to preemptive war, fiscal discipline and other reasonable-sounding propositions that stood in stark contrast to the tirades of cynical warmongers like Rudy Giuliani.
Paul's campaign was helped in no small part by Alex Jones, the Austin, TX radio host who has become the leading voice of the "truth movement" and possibly all alternative media, with millions of daily listeners and several of the web's most-viewed viral videos to his credit. Paul's "Campaign for Liberty" was the driving force behind the "tea party" movement ��" which started as a protest of the $24 trillion bank bailout and the Federal Reserve system, but was quickly ensnared by forces aligned with Newt Gingrich and turned into a protest against Obama's stimulus package and healthcare reform proposals.
Is the Tea Party bait & switch simply a failure of mobilization by the independent right, or was it a preview of things to come? I would make the argument that, whether he knows it or not, Ron Paul was put on the national stage to preempt a constructive political revolution in favor of national suicide in the name of "liberty."
Below, I'll outline Ron Paul's signature issues, what I consider his "deception," and the truth. I think other Alex Jones regulars like Webster Tarpley or Paul Craig Roberts could make these arguments more convincingly. Unfortunately, their continued appearances on "patriot radio" and video are contingent upon not criticizing this most sacred of cows.
End the Fed / Monetary Policy
The Deception:
Paul's main criticism of our monetary system is inflation. In his view (that of the "Austrian" economists), a fiat (legal) currency allows the federal government to print money ad infinitum to pay for wars and social programs, the result being an increase in the supply of dollars and decrease in the value of each dollar. His solution to the problem of inflation is to return to the pre-Bretton Woods gold standard, where the supply and value of money is fixed to the international gold market.
The Truth:
The problem is this: the US Treasury borrows its own money, with compounding interest, from private banks. Interest-on-debt owed to the Federal Reserve accounts for over half of the national debt. There certainly is an inflationary effect when the national government must borrow more money to pay its interest ��" the equivalent of taking out home equity loans to pay your mortgage.
The US Constitution, so often cited by libertarians, specifically demands a fiat currency. Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the power to: borrow money on the credit of the United States; regulate commerce; coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standards of weights and measures. The only reference to gold is I:10, which prohibits the individual states from coining money, creating credit, or paying their debts with anything but gold or silver ��" which is similar to the Bretton Woods concept of gold settlement (not gold money) to keep honest trade balances between nations.
Most committed libertarians are united in their hatred of this constitutional credit system, pioneered by Hamilton and advanced by Lincoln and FDR, each of whom are regularly accused of being crypto-Jews, agents of the Rothschilds and masonic satanists.
They are throwing mud at the solution and intent of the founders, which is a national credit system, based on production and protected by Congress from financial speculation and foreign intervention.
The War on Terror
The Deception:
It's odd that Paul, who has disavowed "9/11 truthers" and embraces the "blowback" theory of 9/11 (Muslims from caves attacked us because we're "over there"), is the hero of the 9/11 truth movement. This again is mostly due to his association with Alex Jones, who has done a lot of good work exposing the 9/11 attacks as a fraud.
Paul's major criticism of American foreign policy is that we are acting as "the policemen of the world," not that we are murdering millions of innocent people to enrich corporations. Getting out from Iraq and Afghanistan is the right thing to do, but why does Paul refuse to acknowledge the real reasons for these wars of aggression (i.e. oil, drugs, control, war profits) and insist that we're simply wasting tax dollars meddling in other peoples' civil conflicts?
The Truth:
Is Ron Paul naive, intimidated by the war lobby, or is this a conscious deception? "Terrorism" is simply proxy war, waged by shadow governments against nations. Should we just step aside and let financiers, through their intelligence agencies and corporate militias, posing as "al Qaeda," balkanize the entire globe? Or should we call a spade a spade? Since no current national legislator in America has gone public for 9/11 Truth, it must be a very dangerous thing to do. I presume Paul's goal is to use the safest excuse to take an anti-war position, but who can say?
Limited Government, the Free Market and Moral Relativism
The Deception:
Ron Paul goes beyond the popular calls to limit excessive taxation and pro-corporate bureaucracy, and takes the market-fundamentalist position to eliminate the Departments of Education and Energy, social programs like Medicare, Social Security and food stamps, and any other government distortion of "the market" (gradually, of course). He has succeeded in rebranding what in other countries is called IMF shock therapy or fascist austerity as "liberty". Beyond this, he is notably less concerned about the effects of legalizing heroin than the effects of legalizing financial derivatives.
The Truth:
The idea that an unregulated market for goods, services and financial products leads to prosperity, equal opportunity and fairness spits in the face of history. Certainly private interests have learned to use the power of the state to protect their investments, but in the absence of an effective state, we see not freedom, but open oligarchy. If the present effects of deregulation aren't evidence enough, the results of the IMF's free market experiments, as detailed in books like Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine, should seal the deal.
The fundamental problem with monetarism (the notion that money = value, which is pervasive across the political spectrum) is that it accepts the notion that economics is a science. But the pseudo-scientific theory of the market relies on impossible factors ��"such as consumers with perfect information, honest sellers, no emotional or moral considerations in transactions, etc. The Austrians and Chicago economists wish away any counterexample to their models by calling it an "externality".
In truth, economics is little more than an encoded system of morality. Other than accountancy and statistics, economic policy is about setting priorities, goals and limits for the individuals within the economy. When we leave these priorities entirely to individuals in "the market", economic activity is pulled toward things like credit default swaps, drugs, pornography and gambling. There are people in this world who will cheat, steal and murder for money, and many of them wear 3-piece suits. Why didn't the Clinton-era deregulations lead to mass transit, cheap energy and full employment? Because it's easier to get rich by stealing than it is by creating.
The libertarian definition of freedom doesn't free us from oppression ��"it frees our oppressors. By holding our government to technical rather than moral standards ��"whether in healthcare or financial regulation ��" we remove the very purpose of the nation-state, encoded so beautifully in the US Constitution and writings of figures like Hamilton and Lincoln.
Of course, you can have too much of a good thing ��"communism being one example. As Ludwig on Mises was fond of saying, "government is force." Our process of self-government should be the evolving struggle to define the general welfare, and the best means of achieving it. If history shows anything, it's that prosperity is possible only in a protective system. The purpose of a national government to defend our rights against the organized powers of money, the pull-down nature of international trade, and to use public credit and commonwealth to help foster the conditions for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Obama Has Been Bad, But There's Something Worse
(Credit to Webster Tarpley for the paraphrase). Obama thus far has made some feeble attempts at a Keynesian model of government ��"corporate and personal welfare spending without any attempt to increase production or the value of labor. Yes, he's selling us down the river ��" but at least he's still trying to give us a log to cling to. The next phase, if the bankers have their way, is crushing austerity at the hands of "the market". Hopelessness, despair and stagnation, without the dwindling safety net of the New Deal. Someone like Mitt Romney or Bobby Jindall could very well emulate the Reaganesque rhetoric of Ron Paul to deliver us into the jaws of corporate retirement, insurance, charter schools, water, libraries, police, and anything else of value that will finalize the looting of America's earned national income.
As 2008 was the year for anyone other than Bush, 2012 may well be the year for anyone other than Obama ��"and given the mobilization of the independent right, anyone resembling Ron Paul. When the next crisis hits, America will be looking for answers, and Paul may have the nation's most functional political coalition. Most on the right, probably including Ron Paul, are well-intentioned, concerned citizens that honestly but wrongly believe "big government" is the source of their problems. In limited instances they are right, but the big picture is a broad, anti-historical, anti-Constitutional theology that leaves us no organized means to fight organized private power. The solutions are ready to be adopted ��" look to people like Mr. Tarpley or his former employer Lyndon LaRouche for a complete program which could be adopted today by the current president. We need to work together to rescue our institutions of government, earned by the blood of our forefathers, from their current occupants. We do not need to fight against the institutions themselves, which are the proverbial babies floating in a sea of fetid bathwater.
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Husband, father of two, small business owner, gardener
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http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ron-Paul-Still-as-Scary-as-by-earl-ofari-hutchin-100221-425.html
Thursday, April 08, 2010
Research Information
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/961_mandeville.html
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=159676.0
http://waronyou.com/topics/webster-tarpley-hitlers-critque-of-fdr-policies-the-same-as-modern-day-libertarians/
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=119832.5;wap2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTGXLx6ztvw&feature=related
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Articles/Owl_of_Minerva.htm
http://east_west_dialogue.tripod.com/american_system/id10.html
http://us1.harunyahya.com/Detail/T/EDCRFV/productId/8214/THE_EVOLUTIONARY_MYTH,_FROM_ANCIENT_GREECE_TO_MODERN_EUROPE
(I don't agree with this site's promoting of Islam, but it has interesting information on Evolution)
http://www.silver-investor.com/charlessavoie/cs_jan05.htm
http://christianinfobomb.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=7
http://truthseeker2473.blogspot.com/2010/04/looting-main-street-how-nations-biggest.html
SUGARDON209 yes .. Tarpley is for the auto bailout . That is for the people not the bankers .. Is it easier for you to get a loan now ? What did it help ?" Inflate the currency & through more money at the greedy bankers " thats whats happening now. 2 11 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-AKFbgQ_8
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/961_mandeville.html
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=159676.0
http://waronyou.com/topics/webster-tarpley-hitlers-critque-of-fdr-policies-the-same-as-modern-day-libertarians/
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=119832.5;wap2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTGXLx6ztvw&feature=related
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Articles/Owl_of_Minerva.htm
http://east_west_dialogue.tripod.com/american_system/id10.html
http://us1.harunyahya.com/Detail/T/EDCRFV/productId/8214/THE_EVOLUTIONARY_MYTH,_FROM_ANCIENT_GREECE_TO_MODERN_EUROPE
(I don't agree with this site's promoting of Islam, but it has interesting information on Evolution)
http://www.silver-investor.com/charlessavoie/cs_jan05.htm
http://christianinfobomb.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=7
http://truthseeker2473.blogspot.com/2010/04/looting-main-street-how-nations-biggest.html
SUGARDON209 yes .. Tarpley is for the auto bailout . That is for the people not the bankers .. Is it easier for you to get a loan now ? What did it help ?" Inflate the currency & through more money at the greedy bankers " thats whats happening now. 2 11 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-AKFbgQ_8
Wednesday, April 07, 2010
Tuesday, April 06, 2010
Illuminati sources
Sunday, April 04, 2010
Thursday, April 01, 2010
Economic Populism Information
From http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=105934.80
One could easily posit all sorts of ridiculous fearmongering scenarios concerning government-controlled police and government-controlled armies as a way of scaring the gullible into embracing the stateless utopian fantasy world of the Austrian School, wherein--according to those who promote this delusional, quasi-religious fairy-tale--a mystical, God-like entity euphemistically called the "free market" magically keeps privately controlled police and privately controlled armies from terrorizing, oppressing and enslaving people.Fortunately, most of the people in this forum aren't quite so gullible.
They know that keeping the police and military in public rather than private hands is, if nothing else, the far lesser of two evils; and that the reason certain public institutions have become so corrupt and oppressive in recent years is that they've been, in effect, "privatized" to one extent or another (case in point: the "Federal" Reserve), and that the solution to this is not to mindlessly throw the baby out with the bathwater but to reclaim from these private interests our rightful control over our own government.I don't know about anyone else, but I, for one, say "no" to the privatized tyranny that anarcho-capitalists would have us all living under if they had their way, and "yes" to the liberty and freedom that can only be experienced in a truly Democratic Constitutional Republic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE
-geolibertarian
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Way to side-step my counterargument to this in my last post.
Wrong. My answer is to give people the power by conferring to them their rightful control over their own government. Yours (apparently) is to throw the baby out with the bathwater by abolishing government altogether (or reducing it to the point of irrelevancy), and thereby give rise to the tyranny of "might makes right," where only those with the most "might" are "free."
Yes, but why is it forming around us? As Alex's listeners know, the answer is that the police and military have fallen under the control of private interests!
Thanks for making my case for me.
I'm convinced that it's you who are "burying your head on this," not me.
Guess we'll just have to let readers decide for themselves, won't we?
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-geolibertarian
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The difference between (a) the lower and middle classes uniting against the plutocrats and (b) the lower and middle classes fighting each other while the divide-and-rule plutocrats laugh in their faces (or rather at the backs of their heads, if you know what I mean.)
-geolibertarian
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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=105934.120
Actually, their influence over the Government is straight from the Private Banking Cartels, and they are currently allowing our infrastructure to collapse.
Liberty works just fine, but if your definition of Liberty would result in a devestating collapse of the economy if fully (or partially in many respects) implimented, that is not an accurate description of Liberty in my opinion.
Empire is a privatized entity, going back to the East India Company and Lord Shellburne ( A privatized navy ) during the Chinese opium wars. It will always be easier for them to gain control of the money if it is issued by a private entity as opposed to appropriated by Congress and issued by the Treasury. The TARP Bill got a massive protest for 750 Billion dollar - the FED (A Private Bank) has secretly loaned somewhere around 9 Trillion and guarenteed about 4 more in currency that have no value because it was merely printed to pay off bills, nothing was produced with it.
If there was no FED, this secret banking cabal would not exist, and the FED is a private entity.
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RonPaulHatesBlacks Nope. Lincoln abandoned colonization during his lifetime. Sorry, slappy.And the war was about slavery. That what you said when you started it, in the Cornerstone Speech and Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession you still haven't read.The newsletters never went to court. They were written by Paul and Lew Rockwell. Paul made $940,000 a year from them, defended them for decades, and even today refuses to repudiate Rockwell. You lose, slappy. 22 hours ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks It would take more guts for him to defend Lincoln, because it would offend the base of white supremacists who have supported him during his entire career --- David Duke, Don Black, Will Williams, Lew Rockwell, Randy Grey. H__, it would offend a lot of his supporters on Youtube --- they openly defend slavery, celebrate the South, and call for secession and the murder of American soldiers today. 2 days ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks Of course the war was about slavery. The South said so when they started it, in their Cornerstone Speech and the Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession. They said "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world." 1 day ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks Apartheid didn't end "decades" ago. It ended in 1994. Most Americans don't support even one more second of slavery or segregation, because We believe all men are created equal. Others commenting on this video disagree. They believe slavery and segregation NEVER should have ended unless and until the racist South just spontaneously and voluntarily decided to give them up, if ever. They actually support MORE years of slavery and segregation. That's some David Duke, KKK s__ right there. 3 days ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23UXUTUrQIw
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) wrong, svinka.equal Jewish Imperial Capitalists to Jew Communists. it wasnt "Jewish" system. Communist architects were non-Jew English/French/German/Irish/Catholic/Slavic/Spanish/Russian. Communism was Secular Humanism embraced early by vastly more non-Jews than Jews.Jews were very persecuted in USSR. not systematic like Nazis. but they were attacked, for religious identity & Capitalist wealth, not ethnic traits.Nazis attacked Jews for any reason. Bolsheviks only attacked Jews for Judaism. 2 months ago
Whatchagonado Pogroms killed 150k Jews during Lenin's reign alone. Preferential treatment?Stalin believed he could maintain alliance with Hitler for the very reason that they were both interested in exterminating Jews. He didn't realize that Hitler had the same delusion that you do, namely that Communism is not separate from Judaism. I guess that makes all three of you fools.Hatred of Jews and ennoblement of some imagined "white ancestry" is merely a variation on an old "divide and conquer" strategy. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Stalin's USSR was Atheist. all religion outlawed. not just Christian. Jude, Buddhism, etc. all synagogue seized for state use. synagogues destroyed in Kiev, Minsk, Odessa, Rostov, Khurgav, Novgorod, Krasnoy & other.Stalin's anti-Jew purges. he saw all Jews as potential Capitalist spy.Nazis attacked Jews for lotsa reasons. Nazis saw Jew as genetic inferior/oppressive financial parasite.Judea didnt declare war on Germany till explusions/atrocities exposed 1939-40. Nazi revisionists say 1933. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Lenin's USSR & all USSR Atheist. no favoritism toward Jews. all religion outlawed equally except during Lenin's USSR & early Stalin's USSR when they supported & allied with Russian Orthodox Christian church against Fascists & Nazis. even Jewish Communists like Lenin & Trotsky favored Russian Orthodox church occasionally yes.want entire list of USSR cities & republics where synagogues were violently seized or destroyed & Jews killed either while still in temple praying or after running away? 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Birobidzhan Oblast was partly press program to alleviate fear of anti-Semitism in USSR by Jews. they really did try but not high effort. it failed. it's true anti-Semitism in USSR wasnt as extreme as Nazi Germany. but very serious, religiously & financially targeted horror. they thought Jews had harder time resisting wealth/luxury & weak against Capitalist persuasion. it wasnt systematic or as focused as Nazi. but no Jew favoritism nor extreme hateful targeted anti-Semitism like Nazi Germany. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Karl Marx (1883), Nikolai Lenin & Trotsky were Jews but disagreed on policies.Lenin wanted Democratic Socialism; parliament govt; state/local autonomy. No Dictatorship or Corporatism. Democracy/regulated Capitalism.he was poisoned by non-Jew rivals who wanted Rightwing Totalitarian Dictatorship.Trotsky wanted "Social Democracy" yet Federal Govt Corporatism/market Capitalism. no Dictator. no local autonomy.Trotsky murdered by Stalinists who wanted oppressive State Capitalist Dictatorship. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq wrong, svinka.equal Jewish Imperial Capitalists to Jew Communists. it wasnt "Jewish" system. Communist architects were non-Jew English/French/German/Irish/Catholic/Slavic/Spanish/Russian. Communism was Secular Humanism embraced early by vastly more non-Jews than Jews.Jews were very persecuted in USSR. not systematic like Nazis. but they were attacked, for religious identity & Capitalist wealth, not ethnic traits.Nazis attacked Jews for any reason. Bolsheviks only attacked Jews for Judaism. 2 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWX7FH1YiOs
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VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) well too bad. LOL. wah! wah!Yes I do agree! LOL. i agree because i'm a Keynesian Capitalist, yah douche Nozzle!i am only accusing American fake "Libertarians", followers of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Von Mises and Rothbard, who are only for the wealthy, the top wealthiest 1% and big business. i wasnt accusing regular real libertarians like Noam Chomsky. ; D 1 month ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) you're so ignorant of history, it's staggering. LOLFDR didnt confiscate the gold. the Treasury Dept + Justice Dept did with unaminous congressional + legal authority to stabilize the market.they paid generous above market value to all gold standard holders and investors for all gold taken out of circulation, out of Wall St market standards.nobody complained except Pro-Gold Standard Far Right Conservative Laissez-Faire Anarcho-Capitalist Social Darwinist "Free" Market (Fascist) purists. 4 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) yes. the Nazis believed the identical way that you do. they were the strongest promoters of economic Social Darwinism in world history next to the monarchies of primitive Aristocratic imperialist Europe, Russia and Asia. you belong in the 17th century. 5 months ago
http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/FDR-s-Second-Amendment-Ri-by-Mary-MacElveen-100418-270.html
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Do you have a brain? I'm guessing no. Are you not at all familiar with the government aid to farmers, major corporations, and other big business? As far as the social programs, think back to when they are enacted. DURING ECONOMIC DOWN TURNS AND DEPRESSIONS, and you know why, because the public is the one that takes the biggest hit. So people make the choice to vote for social programs, instead of starving. WHITE PEOPLE. And you forgot to address my question as to which branch of the military you have served in.
-SirDaily
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Of course he's including banks and S&L's. S &L's took a dive in the 90's and many banks are taking one now. That's a "lifetime," for sure.
-Stag R Lee
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Heather, you are either informed or hopelessly stupid. Your comment goes back to another thread; one in which I personally traced the mortgage lending to poor communites back to Jimmy Carter when he helped pass the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. Here it is again....http://www.commerce.wa.gov/DesktopModules/CTE... ...In this particular thread--repeat, this thread--I demonstrated how, through the repeal of the Glass Steagal Act, Ronald Reagan and a Republican Congress triggered the current economic meltdown....Again, my question to Heather and to all trolls: Why do you hate America so much? Why do you twist historical data to fit arguments of hatred and derision?
-Stag R Lee
One could easily posit all sorts of ridiculous fearmongering scenarios concerning government-controlled police and government-controlled armies as a way of scaring the gullible into embracing the stateless utopian fantasy world of the Austrian School, wherein--according to those who promote this delusional, quasi-religious fairy-tale--a mystical, God-like entity euphemistically called the "free market" magically keeps privately controlled police and privately controlled armies from terrorizing, oppressing and enslaving people.Fortunately, most of the people in this forum aren't quite so gullible.
They know that keeping the police and military in public rather than private hands is, if nothing else, the far lesser of two evils; and that the reason certain public institutions have become so corrupt and oppressive in recent years is that they've been, in effect, "privatized" to one extent or another (case in point: the "Federal" Reserve), and that the solution to this is not to mindlessly throw the baby out with the bathwater but to reclaim from these private interests our rightful control over our own government.I don't know about anyone else, but I, for one, say "no" to the privatized tyranny that anarcho-capitalists would have us all living under if they had their way, and "yes" to the liberty and freedom that can only be experienced in a truly Democratic Constitutional Republic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE
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Quote from: lostdog2323 on May 24, 2009, 09:56:41 AM
So you think its best
for people to trust in the govt to protect them and to control everything in a
benevolent fashion. Talk about utopian fantasy land.
Way to side-step my counterargument to this in my last post.
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My answer is give people the power, yours is give govt the power
Wrong. My answer is to give people the power by conferring to them their rightful control over their own government. Yours (apparently) is to throw the baby out with the bathwater by abolishing government altogether (or reducing it to the point of irrelevancy), and thereby give rise to the tyranny of "might makes right," where only those with the most "might" are "free."
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The police state forming around us as we speak...
Yes, but why is it forming around us? As Alex's listeners know, the answer is that the police and military have fallen under the control of private interests!
Thanks for making my case for me.
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you're really burying your head on this.
I'm convinced that it's you who are "burying your head on this," not me.
Guess we'll just have to let readers decide for themselves, won't we?
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The difference between (a) the lower and middle classes uniting against the plutocrats and (b) the lower and middle classes fighting each other while the divide-and-rule plutocrats laugh in their faces (or rather at the backs of their heads, if you know what I mean.)
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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=105934.120
Actually, their influence over the Government is straight from the Private Banking Cartels, and they are currently allowing our infrastructure to collapse.
Liberty works just fine, but if your definition of Liberty would result in a devestating collapse of the economy if fully (or partially in many respects) implimented, that is not an accurate description of Liberty in my opinion.
Empire is a privatized entity, going back to the East India Company and Lord Shellburne ( A privatized navy ) during the Chinese opium wars. It will always be easier for them to gain control of the money if it is issued by a private entity as opposed to appropriated by Congress and issued by the Treasury. The TARP Bill got a massive protest for 750 Billion dollar - the FED (A Private Bank) has secretly loaned somewhere around 9 Trillion and guarenteed about 4 more in currency that have no value because it was merely printed to pay off bills, nothing was produced with it.
If there was no FED, this secret banking cabal would not exist, and the FED is a private entity.
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RonPaulHatesBlacks Nope. Lincoln abandoned colonization during his lifetime. Sorry, slappy.And the war was about slavery. That what you said when you started it, in the Cornerstone Speech and Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession you still haven't read.The newsletters never went to court. They were written by Paul and Lew Rockwell. Paul made $940,000 a year from them, defended them for decades, and even today refuses to repudiate Rockwell. You lose, slappy. 22 hours ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks It would take more guts for him to defend Lincoln, because it would offend the base of white supremacists who have supported him during his entire career --- David Duke, Don Black, Will Williams, Lew Rockwell, Randy Grey. H__, it would offend a lot of his supporters on Youtube --- they openly defend slavery, celebrate the South, and call for secession and the murder of American soldiers today. 2 days ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks Of course the war was about slavery. The South said so when they started it, in their Cornerstone Speech and the Texas, Mississippi, Georgia, and South Carolina declarations of secession. They said "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world." 1 day ago
RonPaulHatesBlacks Apartheid didn't end "decades" ago. It ended in 1994. Most Americans don't support even one more second of slavery or segregation, because We believe all men are created equal. Others commenting on this video disagree. They believe slavery and segregation NEVER should have ended unless and until the racist South just spontaneously and voluntarily decided to give them up, if ever. They actually support MORE years of slavery and segregation. That's some David Duke, KKK s__ right there. 3 days ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23UXUTUrQIw
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) wrong, svinka.equal Jewish Imperial Capitalists to Jew Communists. it wasnt "Jewish" system. Communist architects were non-Jew English/French/German/Irish/Catholic/Slavic/Spanish/Russian. Communism was Secular Humanism embraced early by vastly more non-Jews than Jews.Jews were very persecuted in USSR. not systematic like Nazis. but they were attacked, for religious identity & Capitalist wealth, not ethnic traits.Nazis attacked Jews for any reason. Bolsheviks only attacked Jews for Judaism. 2 months ago
Whatchagonado Pogroms killed 150k Jews during Lenin's reign alone. Preferential treatment?Stalin believed he could maintain alliance with Hitler for the very reason that they were both interested in exterminating Jews. He didn't realize that Hitler had the same delusion that you do, namely that Communism is not separate from Judaism. I guess that makes all three of you fools.Hatred of Jews and ennoblement of some imagined "white ancestry" is merely a variation on an old "divide and conquer" strategy. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Stalin's USSR was Atheist. all religion outlawed. not just Christian. Jude, Buddhism, etc. all synagogue seized for state use. synagogues destroyed in Kiev, Minsk, Odessa, Rostov, Khurgav, Novgorod, Krasnoy & other.Stalin's anti-Jew purges. he saw all Jews as potential Capitalist spy.Nazis attacked Jews for lotsa reasons. Nazis saw Jew as genetic inferior/oppressive financial parasite.Judea didnt declare war on Germany till explusions/atrocities exposed 1939-40. Nazi revisionists say 1933. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Lenin's USSR & all USSR Atheist. no favoritism toward Jews. all religion outlawed equally except during Lenin's USSR & early Stalin's USSR when they supported & allied with Russian Orthodox Christian church against Fascists & Nazis. even Jewish Communists like Lenin & Trotsky favored Russian Orthodox church occasionally yes.want entire list of USSR cities & republics where synagogues were violently seized or destroyed & Jews killed either while still in temple praying or after running away? 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Birobidzhan Oblast was partly press program to alleviate fear of anti-Semitism in USSR by Jews. they really did try but not high effort. it failed. it's true anti-Semitism in USSR wasnt as extreme as Nazi Germany. but very serious, religiously & financially targeted horror. they thought Jews had harder time resisting wealth/luxury & weak against Capitalist persuasion. it wasnt systematic or as focused as Nazi. but no Jew favoritism nor extreme hateful targeted anti-Semitism like Nazi Germany. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) Karl Marx (1883), Nikolai Lenin & Trotsky were Jews but disagreed on policies.Lenin wanted Democratic Socialism; parliament govt; state/local autonomy. No Dictatorship or Corporatism. Democracy/regulated Capitalism.he was poisoned by non-Jew rivals who wanted Rightwing Totalitarian Dictatorship.Trotsky wanted "Social Democracy" yet Federal Govt Corporatism/market Capitalism. no Dictator. no local autonomy.Trotsky murdered by Stalinists who wanted oppressive State Capitalist Dictatorship. 2 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq wrong, svinka.equal Jewish Imperial Capitalists to Jew Communists. it wasnt "Jewish" system. Communist architects were non-Jew English/French/German/Irish/Catholic/Slavic/Spanish/Russian. Communism was Secular Humanism embraced early by vastly more non-Jews than Jews.Jews were very persecuted in USSR. not systematic like Nazis. but they were attacked, for religious identity & Capitalist wealth, not ethnic traits.Nazis attacked Jews for any reason. Bolsheviks only attacked Jews for Judaism. 2 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWX7FH1YiOs
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VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) well too bad. LOL. wah! wah!Yes I do agree! LOL. i agree because i'm a Keynesian Capitalist, yah douche Nozzle!i am only accusing American fake "Libertarians", followers of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Von Mises and Rothbard, who are only for the wealthy, the top wealthiest 1% and big business. i wasnt accusing regular real libertarians like Noam Chomsky. ; D 1 month ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) you're so ignorant of history, it's staggering. LOLFDR didnt confiscate the gold. the Treasury Dept + Justice Dept did with unaminous congressional + legal authority to stabilize the market.they paid generous above market value to all gold standard holders and investors for all gold taken out of circulation, out of Wall St market standards.nobody complained except Pro-Gold Standard Far Right Conservative Laissez-Faire Anarcho-Capitalist Social Darwinist "Free" Market (Fascist) purists. 4 months ago
VampiressOnDaProwlq (uploader) yes. the Nazis believed the identical way that you do. they were the strongest promoters of economic Social Darwinism in world history next to the monarchies of primitive Aristocratic imperialist Europe, Russia and Asia. you belong in the 17th century. 5 months ago
http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/FDR-s-Second-Amendment-Ri-by-Mary-MacElveen-100418-270.html
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Do you have a brain? I'm guessing no. Are you not at all familiar with the government aid to farmers, major corporations, and other big business? As far as the social programs, think back to when they are enacted. DURING ECONOMIC DOWN TURNS AND DEPRESSIONS, and you know why, because the public is the one that takes the biggest hit. So people make the choice to vote for social programs, instead of starving. WHITE PEOPLE. And you forgot to address my question as to which branch of the military you have served in.
-SirDaily
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Of course he's including banks and S&L's. S &L's took a dive in the 90's and many banks are taking one now. That's a "lifetime," for sure.
-Stag R Lee
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Heather, you are either informed or hopelessly stupid. Your comment goes back to another thread; one in which I personally traced the mortgage lending to poor communites back to Jimmy Carter when he helped pass the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. Here it is again....http://www.commerce.wa.gov/DesktopModules/CTE... ...In this particular thread--repeat, this thread--I demonstrated how, through the repeal of the Glass Steagal Act, Ronald Reagan and a Republican Congress triggered the current economic meltdown....Again, my question to Heather and to all trolls: Why do you hate America so much? Why do you twist historical data to fit arguments of hatred and derision?
-Stag R Lee
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