Tuesday, September 14, 2010

The Tea Party vs. IKE

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/toby-barlow/the-tea-partys-worst-nigh_b_706516.html

http://www.blackcommentator.com/index.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/06/AR2010090602959.html?wpisrc=nl_pmopinions

http://www.thegrio.com/politics/why-conservatives-want-to-rewrite-civil-rights-history.php?page=2

garagenoir 07:15 AM on 9/08/2010
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"I hope too that someone will ask the Tea Party candidates like Sharron Angle, Joe Miller and Rand Paul what they think about Dwight. I'm sure the answer will be illuminating."Oh yes, and here's how the exchange would go:They're unread, so the first answer will be "Who?"They're opportunists, learning that Ike was the Republican general who won WWII, their next answer will be "One of our greatest presidents!"Seeing the rest of his big-government credentials, they'll shift to "We want our country back!" because, at root, they are nihilists.

garagenoir: "I hope too that someone will ask the Tea Party
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MikeWebster 02:36 AM on 9/08/2010
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The mantra of the extreme right is that they hate "big Government", and want freedom. They fail to actually state what the problem is though.In the case of Big Government - what do they mean by big Government. Big Military? Thats something they tend to love. Government funded education? That has only positive impacts that I can see. Government funding of medicine? That just means greater availability of healthcare - more consistent quality of healthcare - healthcare according to people's needs.None of these actually have a philosophical downside, apart from the farcical argument that there is no freedom of choice in Government health care. That's an untrue statement, and in any case, it is hard to argue that there is freedom of choice in a vastly over-priced and underserviced private system. Perhaps the richest 1% have all the choice they need, and they always will. For others choice is an illusion because you don't have the money to pay for it.Freedom, one of the other great catch cries of the right - is not helped by small Government - unless freedom really means freedom to not get a decent education, freedom from decent healthcare, and freedom from the opportunity to improve one's economic circumstances

coloradodreaming 12:07 PM on 9/06/2010
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You wait and see after 3 trillion for the war that wasn't necessary the party of NO will fight 50 billion for infrastructure. They will throw their usual fit about the deficit and the bill will go down in failure. Anyone driving on Pres. Ike's roads has had to notice how many have returned to being bumpy cow paths. We have without a doubt the worst set of priorities. We would rather use taxpayers dollars to advance other countries than our own. If your Senator or Rep. fights this program I hope you finally get off your duff and fight them.

http://www.utne.com/politics/Why-Tea-Partiers-Would-Not-Like-Ike-Eisenhower.aspx

interrobang_3 9/8/2010 11:21:59 AM
I believe in taxation with representation.
Taxes pay pave our streets, maintain and repair our public infrastructure, provide waste management services, fire and police protection, fund our public schools and libraries and a host of other domestic services.
Granted there is plenty of money wasted on unjust war, and military spending, and subsidies for multi-billion dollar corporation to maintain the status quo.
Without taxes our country runs the risk of being owned by other countries in the form of government bond sales.
Oh, wait, that's why we're essentially owned by the Chinese government.
Real patriots pay taxes.

This is one of several abridged versions circulating online of an actual statement by President Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961). The original passage, from a letter Eisenhower wrote to his brother Edgar on November 8, 1954, went as follows:
Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/ike.asp

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